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Old October 26th, 2005, 10:07 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by PythonPower
Hate to break it to you, but i still disagree:

1. of course if you eat ANY of one thing too much, you will have problems specially when you are not getting the rest of the vitamins and minerals! this has nothing to do with high protein, but rather you depriving your body of calcium.

2. Notmilk.com is not really a reliable source who think milk is evil...

2.1 Goodluck building muscles and getting big with only 10% of your daily intake as protein.
2.2 Last time i checked WHO was on the cutting edge of nutrition and science. they made such a great contribution like...like..umm....WHOA! i cant think of single useful thing they have done.

3. Drink Water. You always drink water. Major part of your body is water based. You need water to keep everything running at optimal levels as well as "flush" your system regularly. Now if you are ingesting high protein or not, if you are not drinking decent amount of water....whose fault is that?

3.1 The kidney thing is the one of the oldest myths out there that has never ever been proven to be a valid one.

3.2 Once again, if you are not getting all the different vitamins and minerals your body needs, whose fault is that? Not the high protein diet, but the "dieter" for neglecting and depriving his body. And O, by the way, Meat, eggs, and fish, they all happen to have something in common...can you guess what? they all have B6 in them. (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...Food%20Sources)

3.3 The typical american diet is NOT providing enough protein. You gotta be blind to believe the statement that it is providing plenty of protein. The typical diet is providing is: grease, grease, grease, cholestrol, high refined sugars, high carbohydrates. Not enough protein.


4. Once again, keep yourself hydrated. Not keeping yourself hydrated....whose fault is that?

4.1. Once more, there never has been any proven evidence that it places your kidneys and liver under heavy stress. Oldest myths in the book.

5. Creatine is not an amino acid. That is incorrect

5.1 Creatine phosphate -- An energy-rich compound that supplies energy and a phosphate group for the formation of ATP. (http://nutrition.jbpub.com/discoveri...ne%20phosphate)

5.2 Creatine is something that can naturally be found skeletal muscles such as meat and fish. If your body lacks creatine, it synthesizes new creatine from the 3 amino acids: arginine, glycine and methionine

5.3 Creatine by default is not amino acid, but a by product of the above mentioned amino acids
notmilk is just one site I found but regardless of that, the info is correct, and in other medical studies.....prove it is incorrect.
I do not say I agree with only 10% but then not the whole globe is looking for muscle building and for a normal person that is fine.........
The kidney thing IS proven and has happened to a few bb I know personally!
how much B6 is in those foods...........now denatured are they?
I agree most do not get enough protein........but that was not the discussion......
there is proven evidence about liver and kidney damage due to imbalance in protein diet
As for creatine, I think the drs may be a bit more ahead on studies with that so you may want to look closer to back up your statement. Creatine uses the same transport system as protein and all if its substraits, it can only transport so much at a time.........which was the whole purpose of this thread.
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