The Velocity Diet I and II

[Mean Machine]

Will be starting the diet soon!

[Mean Machine]

For anyone that is interested i started my velocity diet yesterday and i have a running blog accounting my diet and my experiences, its early days but i am in good spirits and my confidence is already on the up.

[HomerJSimpson]

Ok guys Im going to be starting the velocity diet, Im going to give it the green light in about a month (June 1st), been researching alot and Im estimating my shopping list will look something like this:

1. Metabolic Drive

168 servings needed total so 6 containers

Total Cost: 6*25.99=$155.94

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459252

2. Surge
Need approx 16 servings so 2 containers

Total Cost: 2*$21.00=$42.00

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459244

3. Fish oil

Need approx 21*3*4=252 caps

This 400 caps from costco/amazon should be more than sufficient:

Total Cost: $18.99


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ance&n=3760901

4. Milled Flax seeds

Servings needed: 4/day*3/week*4 weeks= 48 servings

Total cost: $20



http://www.drugstore.com/qxp41718_33...ed_organic.htm

5. Hot Rox 49.99

Needed 1 container?

Total cost: $49.99

Grand Total:

$155.94+$42.00+$18.99+$20+$49.99=$286.92

Question:

Can we go without the Hot Rox? Ive heard some bad things about its side effects and was wondering how much removing it would effect this diet.

[HomerJSimpson]

The 235 price tag seems a little high to me (without the Hot Rox) anyone have any ideas how to lower it?

Question:


What about swapping the over priced Metabolic Drive with something like:





Serving Size: 1 scoop (28.4 - 29.4 g)

Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Calories 110
Calories from Fat 20
Total Fat 2 g 3%*
Saturated Fat 1 g 5%*
Cholesterol 25 mg 8%*
Total Carbohydrate 2 g 1%*
Sugars 1 g
Protein 22 g 44%*
Calcium 170 mg 17%*
Sodium 55 mg 2%*
Potassium 95 mg 3%*

2 containers is equivalent to 6 containers of the Metabolic drive saving $100


Question:

The Surge seems expensive $2 per drink, is there any kind of powder that replaces this, I know Adonis said how to make it, but is there any recommend cheaper/equivalent products?

[sleepyles]

Hey Mean Machine. How is the Velocity Diet going for you? Just really curious to see how this would work.

[HomerJSimpson]

yeah he hasnt been updating his journal


I read this online:

Low carb diets are a great way to lose fat and get in shape quick. The problem is that eating low carb can be difficult. Low carb protein shakes are the way to go to get the best results!

One problem with typical low calorie diets is that you usually lose more muscle than fat. This can slow down your metabolism and make your body actually look worse than before. Using a protein shake to keep your protein intake high while minimizing carbs is how the pros keep their muscle while shedding the ugly bodyfat.

So how do you pick out a low carb protein for you? Well, there is no right answer, and a lot depends on your personal preferences.
[ Top 5 Sellers ]
1. Optimum 100% Whey Protein
2. Higher Power 100% Whey Power
3. Optimum 100% Casein Protein
4. Dymatize Elite Whey
5. AST VP2

Most people will want a protein that contains as much protein as possible with as little carbs as possible. The basic idea is to find a shake with at least 20 grams of protein per serving and under 10 grams of carbs. The listing below shows all the ones available that are made by quality manufacturers.

After that, you will want a shake that tastes good and mixes well. The best idea is to purchase a popular product because most likely people are buying it because they enjoy it. A product that tastes terrible (there aren't many anymore) will never sell very well. The top sellers listing below will help you. Try a bunch of different ones until you find one that you like the best!

The protein source is important as well. Almost everybody agrees that whey protein is the best for building muscle and strength. Other people prefer Soy or Egg protein for various reasons. Whey is more expensive, but it is worth it for sure. Whey protein isolate is even more powerful.

^^So Im just going to axe the over priced low carb grow and do it with 100% whey, Ill let you guys know how it turns out

[mattmatt755]

Actually, when you consider your normal grocery bill mixed in with going out to eat this diet is very cheap. Also, considering your not drinking on this diet (beer, e.t.c) it's even more economical (at least for me) , I will go on this diet in two weeks. Just the discipline alone that this takes is very challenging. I wonder how many people actually make it all the way without cheating. All of the post have been very helpfull when taking down notes on what I need.

[HomerJSimpson]

Originally Posted by mattmatt755

Actually, when you consider your normal grocery bill mixed in with going out to eat this diet is very cheap. Also, considering your not drinking on this diet (beer, e.t.c) it's even more economical (at least for me) , I will go on this diet in two weeks. Just the discipline alone that this takes is very challenging. I wonder how many people actually make it all the way without cheating. All of the post have been very helpfull when taking down notes on what I need.

I mean cmon 250 a month to choke down protein is a little too pricey considering I estimate after Ive replaced the Surge with Gatorade and Low Carb Grow with 100% whey that my grocery bill is going to be arounf $75.....

It looks like Mean Machine bit the dust, Im on day 2 I feel fine, not great but fine, no heart palpitations or anything like that, that someone might expect from a low carb diet. The 100% whey tastes about as good as the Low carb grow Im sure, Im not puking like Brock did when I take my protein.

[ImageDynamix]

Wait, you're subbing Gatorade for Surge? ...... Are you mixing any sort of protein powder with it?

If you want a decent post workout drink, mix complex/simple carbs with your whey powder in a 2:1 ratio (respectively). I blend 1 scoop of whey with .5 cup oatmeal and about 1 TBSP honey - - it tastes great.

Two-hundred and fifty dollars a month is nothing compared to what we pay for groceries... In fact, it comes close to half of what we occassionally spend.

[HomerJSimpson]

Originally Posted by ImageDynamix

Wait, you're subbing Gatorade for Surge? ...... Are you mixing any sort of protein powder with it?

If you want a decent post workout drink, mix complex/simple carbs with your whey powder in a 2:1 ratio (respectively). I blend 1 scoop of whey with .5 cup oatmeal and about 1 TBSP honey - - it tastes great.

Two-hundred and fifty dollars a month is nothing compared to what we pay for groceries... In fact, it comes close to half of what we occassionally spend.

I tried that it tastes terrible, Ive been just drinking the half of the gatorade preworkout, and drinking the other half after than taking protien seperate. I tried mixing the gatorade with the protien and that tastes terrible. Its better to do it seperate

[ImageDynamix]

Ok, so you drink the gatorade, then immediately after drink a protein shake?

Have you read the product description of Biotest Surge? Check it out here. That'll give you a good idea of what it's supposed to do.

Once you've read that, ask yourself if Gatorade and 100% Whey do the same thing...

But hey, maybe they do, I have no idea....

[tat2]

beginning day four and everything is great except i've had a reaction to something, i suspect the hot rox. last two evenings i've broken out inside my elbows, armpits, behind the knees, etc. i'm gonna eliminate one thing a day and see if i can find what is causing it (hot rox today, met. drive tomorrow, flax seed sat. and fish oil sunday). this diet is working great so i hope i find out the problem soon! BTW surge is wicked good!

[Mean Machine]

To all of the above i have ceased my velocity diet by day 5. There are in my opinion from the information within the diet itself some severe miscalculations. For 1 it is impossible to keep the carbs well under 100grams and keep your calories up by consuming the stated protein quantites, i had to increase my protein intake by adding 300ml of skimmed milk to the morning and last shake of the day. If you examin my blog you will see precisely what i am talking about with some of the examples i have given. I might also add that these are simply no more no less simple calculations and you dont have to have been doing this nutritional studying for any length of time to do simple maths. I was very disappointed with the overall diet however having said that what i am basically doing now is i spent a considerable amount of time working out 3 simple meals per day roughly equivalent to 3 shakes with the exeption of increasing carbs. The level at which you are supposed to do a workout on the nutritional values provided were virtually making me pass out within 30 minutes, it simply wasnt enough. None of my routine was benefitting and i was going down hill fast. My wife was extremely worried. It also does not help if your doing a ten hour day at work everyday.
As i said in my blog ... i would certainly recommend you check the nutritional values of the stuff you are consuming, i cant stress this enough as the original is flawed and i will ask absolutely ANYBODY to prove otherwise.

PS. Since ive changed to 3 meals a day... nice and clean my workouts have intensified immensely and my weight is still coming off!!!

[HomerJSimpson]

Id appreciate it if you could elaborate a little on your new diet.

Im heading into my fifth day tomorrow of the Velocity Diet and I feel great, the question of whether or not you have to use Biotest products have been answered. The results Ive gotten are simply remarkable and I havent even used anything from Biotest, ive used 100% Optimum Whey and Gatorade and pretty much followed Mean Machines Velocity Diet blog. I have also refused to take the Hot Rox capsules as I believe they're harmful and are grossly overpriced. My weight has gone down from 212 -> 211 ->209.5->208 on the morning of the fourth day. My body already looks alot better, my pecs (I do have pecs!) are more visible and stomach flatter, I did experience the same light headedness in the Gym that Mean Machine did. Ive corrected for that by drinking half a Gatorade before and than half afterwards and limiting myself to 15-20 sets total. I will make a blog of what Ive been doing the last 4 days with all of the specifics I have it all written down. Id also like to add that its very difficult to sleep on this diet (as all low carb diets), make sure you read a book before you go to bed as its proven that is the best thing to do, to help yourself sleep naturally and it works. Also, might wanna try getting some sleep medicine incase that doesnt work and you have something important the next day to do. I tried Unisome it didnt work that well, Ive been using NyQuil and that works great (judging by past experiences as I havent used it on the diet because I was out), its not ment for that, but Im still looking for the right sleep aid. Mean Machine appears to of had this problem also as on non working days he takes milk before he goes to bed hoping it will help him sleep.

Thanks for your postings Mean Machine, I wouldnt have been able to do this diet without your work!

[mattmatt755]

Melatonin is a very good nautral sleep aid. I wonder if adding one well balanced meal in the afternoon would help your dissyness. Maybe a healthy choice dinner for lunch. I may do this when I start because my metabolism is so fast already I can see getting light headed at work. Then again maybe not still need more input from a pro. Might do this by the book anyway just want to be safe.

[jsmith75]

i got a question. is it ok to substitute the fish oil capsules for smart balance omega bottled oil? it has 14 grams of fat, 1 saturated, 4.5 polyunsaturated, and 8 monounsaturated.

thanks

[Mean Machine]

I shouldnt worry about using them mate. For one at the time i couldnt use salmon oil caps as they are not nearly as abundant and easily to get hold of in the uk as else where so i simply used cod liver oil caps 1000mg. They sound just fine.

[mattmatt755]

O.K I've read this diet and these posts to many times not to go on it. So starting Monday I WILL begin a 28 day overhaul. Ill post problems, side effects, results e.t.c as I go along, as well as a picture of the finished results. This means no more titty bars, beer, cheese burgers and cheap cigarretes. I'm going to go on the strict diet no cheats at all. If I don't complete it you all have the right to call me a pussy. Monday, May 29