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**Manfred_Man** · June 29th, 2005, 04:23 PM

welcome to the EF community, feeney!

glad to have you here, along with all the other new members! feel free to PM for any help along the way... look forward to your future posts.

J1nSan · July 1st, 2005, 02:40 AM

Hi, I'm 18, and an amputee. This happened in 2002 and I some what started lifting like a year ago but just got lazy. Being an amputee I haven't been able to get out much and the laziness factor kind of messes things up... I'm pretty much a tub of lard now and was hoping you guys could help me with properly strengthening and eating right. I'm 5' 3" and am about 160 (>_<)

**Old_Fart2** · July 1st, 2005, 08:12 AM

Welcome JinSan!

Sorry to hear of your mis-fortune but glad you're here! Which limb has been amputated?

J1nSan · July 1st, 2005, 11:37 AM

My left leg, above knee, and thanks for the welcome!

**painless2** · July 1st, 2005, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J1nSan

Hi, I'm 18, and an amputee. This happened in 2002 and I some what started lifting like a year ago but just got lazy. Being an amputee I haven't been able to get out much and the laziness factor kind of messes things up... I'm pretty much a tub of lard now and was hoping you guys could help me with properly strengthening and eating right. I'm 5' 3" and am about 160 (>_<)

I'm in a wheelchair myself, so there's no excuse for being lazy. I did gain a lot of weight initally though because i ate like I did when I wasn't in the cahir, and playing football, skiiing, running etc.. and simply didn't expend enough calories. That's part of the reason that I went into exercise physiology, along with the fact that my doctors always tried to talk technically and above my understanding at the time. Now we have "coversations" Anyway, welcome aboard and let me know if you have any questions, I have a unique perspective on disabilities and weightlifting.
Old Fart, just so you know, my penchant for the big word usage is likely to get worse, I am starting a PhD program in Motor Development this fall. lol I can't stop!

ADV,
My favorite word is phosphofructokinase(PFK)

**Old_Fart2** · July 1st, 2005, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by painless2

Old Fart, just so you know, my penchant for the big word usage is likely to get worse, I am starting a PhD program in Motor Development this fall. lol I can't stop!

ADV,
My favorite word is phosphofructokinase(PFK)

Oh, no!

Maybe you can slowly start educating us; start a word of the day feature.

**painless2** · July 1st, 2005, 12:20 PM

Not one person took a stab at the muscle that crossed 5 joints question I posted before I went to New Orleans, so i'm a little jaded.

How about this one:
What's the longest muscle in the body?

ADV,
I don't think you're eligible, lol

**Old_Fart2** · July 1st, 2005, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by painless2

Not one person took a stab at the muscle that crossed 5 joints question I posted before I went to New Orleans, so i'm a little jaded.

How about this one:
What's the longest muscle in the body?

ADV,
I don't think you're eligible, lol

Come on! Of course it's the Sartorius.

Actually I googled it but figured it was one of the thigh muscles before I googled.

**painless2** · July 1st, 2005, 12:53 PM

Comes from the Latin "sartor" or the "tailor's muscle" because of the usage in the cross-legged position they used to sit in. Very nice, though I am disappointed you went so fast to the Google.

**Old_Fart2** · July 1st, 2005, 01:01 PM

I remember some of the first bodybuilding contests I went to and seeing some of the guys who had this muscle crossing their thigh, very visible on some of them. I was curious which muscle it was, so I looked it up. This was a few years back so forgive my elderly feeble-mindedness.

**painless2** · July 1st, 2005, 01:09 PM

Here's a good representation from Old Boy Gunter:

**Adonis** · July 1st, 2005, 01:18 PM

When I was in school, I spent a fair amount of time pondering on how one could develop that muscle. From a isolation standpoint as well as during compoud liftrs (adjusting foot position).

We also tackled developing the T4 are of the trapezius. Of course scapular depression would be involved, but what else could someone do?

Any ideas?

I ahve a few exercises for both, but what do you guys think?

**painless2** · July 1st, 2005, 01:31 PM

http://www.exrx.net/Muscles/Sartorius.html

Cross-legged low cable cable manuever, such that the leg remains relatively straight, and an ankle cuff is used. It's a hip and knee flexor, so keep that in mind with positioning.

http://www.exrx.net/Muscles/TrapeziusLower.html

Shoulder retraction, just like using a row machine, except the arms remain straight and do not flex at the elbow. The object is the "adduct" the scapula toward the spine. This muscle is worked as an ancillary in many overhead motions like the lat pull as well, and can be targeted in the first movement of that exercise, the depression of the scapula, without completing the motion itself.

People will look at you funny when your range of motion is about 3-4 inches with straight arms, but there's a lot of things people don't understand, like the neck harness and short range in a bench press for the serratus.

**Old_Fart2** · July 1st, 2005, 01:38 PM

Well, I may not be very smart but I can damn sure surf the internet: Obscure Muscle Groups

**Adonis** · July 1st, 2005, 01:55 PM

Hey fart, witht he ecpetion of gracias and TFL I make a strong effort to target those muscles in each program I design.

I leave out the TFL, b/c I have only ever heard of one person with a loose TFL. She is a runner, and actually has some seirous pain b/c of it. Otherwise, the TFL is too dam tight to worry about training. Stretch it often, every single day atleast once.

Painless. the sartorius exercise you described was one I had actualy attmepted before. The sacapr etraction is a good one, but depression is more important in my opininon. As such, I used to do partial range pulldowns behind the neck. Basically load up the machine, and only depress the shoulder baldes. Keep the arms straight. Hits T4 great.

Behind the back barbell shrugs are also a good exercise for T4, well thats what Dorian says anyways

**painless2** · July 1st, 2005, 02:32 PM

Dorian needs to look at that muscle diagram. As for the shoulder retraction, the reason it that is is able to target that area is because the fibers are pennated in a diagonal position not vertically, so they still work well in horizontal motions, despite the fact that the other mid portions of the trap are working as well, they work synergistically.

sparx · July 1st, 2005, 04:55 PM

im kinda new whats yup everyone

**Old_Fart2** · July 1st, 2005, 04:56 PM

Hey Sparx!

Sorry we got a little side tracked there. Tell us about yourself.

**bbabb22** · July 1st, 2005, 04:57 PM

hey welcome to the forums!

Doritos Eater · July 6th, 2005, 02:26 PM

My Turn ^_^

My name is Martin,29,single and white and way way overweight.

I had a kidney/pancreas transplant three years ago.I did Hemodialysis for two and a half year before that and i have gain a lot of weight there,and even more with my transplant.I have to take a bunch of medications because of that.For some other reason i cannot lift more than 5 pounds weights.(eye problem)

I have been trying to get in shape for a while now with no Success but i wont give up yet.
That's pretty much it...for now