Low Testosterone - Page 3

**theatrain** · July 28th, 2008, 07:02 PM

I know its all procedure. I just feel like they want more blood then I have to offer! lol.

They took about 8 vials of blood this morning before the MRI. And after the blood loss i dont exactly feel up to going to the gym, luckily I worked out last night which was supposed to be my day off so i could afford to miss today

**TommuGuns** · July 28th, 2008, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by theatrain

I know its all procedure. I just feel like they want more blood then I have to offer! lol.

They took about 8 vials of blood this morning before the MRI. And after the blood loss i dont exactly feel up to going to the gym, luckily I worked out last night which was supposed to be my day off so i could afford to miss today

Once ur test levels get sorted... get ready 2 really start training.

**cujo-1** · August 2nd, 2008, 01:42 AM

hows things going now?

**theatrain** · August 2nd, 2008, 03:06 PM

waiting no results of 3rd blood test and MRI, appointment is next wednesday.
after that hopefully something gets resolved.

**A1food4U** · August 2nd, 2008, 03:11 PM

Steady on Train,

in the mean time, visit the nearest oyster bar......

**theatrain** · August 2nd, 2008, 04:06 PM

could low testosterone also be to blame for trouble with fat loss?

**wildstang** · August 2nd, 2008, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by theatrain

could low testosterone also be to blame for trouble with fat loss?

low test levels in older men usually results in increased abdominal fat and im fairly sure it can affect a person with low test levels similarly.

**TommuGuns** · August 2nd, 2008, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by theatrain

could low testosterone also be to blame for trouble with fat loss?

Yes its true... its why men lose weight faster than woman, cos of testosterone helps burn fat..... Do u remember the show "The Biggest Loser" that reality show where they have to lose weight to win money at the end. They were saying the show was unfair on women cos men burn fat faster cos of testosterone and it is near impossible for a woman to win that show

**cujo-1** · August 3rd, 2008, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by A1food4U

Steady on Train,

in the mean time, visit the nearest oyster bar......

that gave me a good idea for a new thread.

**wildstang** · September 4th, 2008, 05:47 PM

out of curiosity theatrain i had my levels checked myself on 2 different occasions first 2 months after ending cycle of juice. this is what northern plains laboratory LLC came up with.
testosterone 4.60 ng/ml to convert ng/ml to ng/dl times by 100 so total 460
free test 1.01 ng/dl
supplemented with tribulis and dhea and diet consisting of at least 20% fat wich is needed 4 healthy test production on second test procedure.
results: test 5.09 ng/ml reference chart used for test by lab is 1.75 to 7.81 ng/ml
free test 1.09 with reference chart of .59 low to 1.17 high norm

mind you these levels are of a 40+ year old man whos done several cycles with proper pct

**theatrain** · September 4th, 2008, 10:15 PM

Interesting stang, I've currently been taking in more fat and haven't noticed a difference, where can i learn more about this tribulus and dhea? are these legal supps that i can get at vitamin stores?

I've been considering doing the whole clomid thing that tommuguns recommended, I've been looking for other information on the web to see if anyone has ever tried it and if it will work. The other problem is finding clomid. I've asked around, I've got a way to get it but the guy isn't so reliable.

Clomid 2x a day for 7 days, 1 time a day for the rest until i finish 2 boxes (20 pills)

**TommuGuns** · September 5th, 2008, 03:52 AM

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**wildstang** · September 5th, 2008, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by theatrain

Interesting stang, I've currently been taking in more fat and haven't noticed a difference, where can i learn more about this tribulus and dhea? are these legal supps that i can get at vitamin stores?

I've been considering doing the whole clomid thing that tommuguns recommended, I've been looking for other information on the web to see if anyone has ever tried it and if it will work. The other problem is finding clomid. I've asked around, I've got a way to get it but the guy isn't so reliable.

Clomid 2x a day for 7 days, 1 time a day for the rest until i finish 2 boxes (20 pills)

forbb can get you the clomid you seek, but i will say you apparently have had this problem 4 quite some time apparently and im almost positive clomid will raise your levels during use, but think after the therapy usage of clomid your test levels will plummet back to were they are with a possible .03 to .50 increase if at all. i know your looking for a permament fix here and i dont blame you one bit and im not purposely trying to discourage you from trying clomid . at this point anything is better then putting up with the problem you feel now. i as a child i had a esticular problem with one of the veins being to large and docs thought i could suffer permament problems as a result such as rupture, shrinkage of testes. back then in that era of medicine it was not much better then having a native american medicine man or african witch doctor. i was tortured pocked and prodded by the docs and eventually my mother chose to let nature take its course (me pleading) even though the docs wanted to do surgery. i grew without any permament probs. who knows maybe it will cause a prob later in life but as a result of that i have periodical checkups.
as far as tribulis, and dhea yes you can get without prescription. i order mine from bodybuilding.com. you are the reason i experimented on myself with this. besides it dosent cost me anything to have my bloodworkup done since i work in the field and have my ways of getting tested. there is also a vaso-dilator at bodybuilding.com that may be of benefit 2 you also for getting the blood to lower extremities if you know what i meen. i tried it and dont care for the way it made me feel in the begining untill i got use to it. it shot my blood pressure up and resting heart rate up, but definitely had good results with workout pumpups. and 4 fat get them from good sources such as fish oil, nuts, etc.
have your doc order a complete thyroid workup. your thyroid being deficient in one area can impact another area.
yohimbine hcl is the other product.