shin splints, but in arms.

[BonesX]

Hey, have any you had painful feelings in your forearm bones (similar to shin splints) when doing heavy weight in curls?
I've had them at about 2 or 3 different time periods in the past.
Really and mainly feel it when finishing the set and putting the weight down and releasing grip.
Usually had them during times when working out frequently and during strength increases.
My main bicep exercise is preacher curl. Always start with that and go heavy.

Don't have those feelings now, but what I do have right now is elbow soreness in my right elbow bone, I think its similar to either shin spints (but in the arm) or tennis elbow.
I know this is more common because I've read about elbow soreness several times on this forum.
Had it in the past and it comes and goes, but right now I got it pretty bad...

[TommuGuns]

Take some supps, Glucosamine, MSM, Cissus that may help.

But pain in your forearm while doing curls is what u want 2 feel, and is completely normal. So enjoy that pain, and keep curling when feeling that pain in your forearm and dont u dare stop that set cos ur forearms are hurting. GO HARDER!... 1000% Normal. Break the pain barrier mentally, dont be a pussy.

Strectch after you workout!!!!!!!!!!

In terms of your elbow though.... You may have tennis elbow, so get that checked by a doctor.

Also ice your elbows after u train... it may be a bit of swelling I ice my elbows after a heavy bicep workout... And I ice my knees sometimes after squats.

[BonesX]

Originally Posted by TommuGuns

Take some supps, Glucosamine, MSM, Cissus that may help.

But pain in your forearm while doing curls is what u want 2 feel, and is completely normal. So enjoy that pain, and keep curling when feeling that pain in your forearm and dont u dare stop that set cos ur forearms are hurting.

Hey I never said the pain stops me. Its not that big of a deal really, I was just asking if anyone else has felt this aswell because I was wondering how rare it is.
The elbow soreness however is much more annoying.

[wildstang]

the elbow soreness you refer 2 is more then likely the onset of tendonitis from the extreme loads put on the joint. if it feels as if its in the bone you may actually be wearing thin your protective cartilage that acts as a shock absorber covering the ends of bones. in that case nsaids is usual treatment but kinda just masks the problem. to actually treat the problem it has been shown to be beneficial using a quality glucosamine product. as far as tendonitis goes all the other treatments are good but the most efficient method ive found out is cortisone shots by the doc. i put up with tendoonitis 4 years and 1 series of shots in the joint knocked out the problem. cortisone shots arent a cure all but can be quite beneficial. it isnt recomended having to many in a years time because as usual with any drug there are sides that can occur. as tommuguns put it the cissuss does actually help ive tried it but it dosent get rid of the prob such as the injections did.

[TommuGuns]

Originally Posted by wildstang

the elbow soreness you refer 2 is more then likely the onset of tendonitis from the extreme loads put on the joint. if it feels as if its in the bone you may actually be wearing thin your protective cartilage that acts as a shock absorber covering the ends of bones. in that case nsaids is usual treatment but kinda just masks the problem. to actually treat the problem it has been shown to be beneficial using a quality glucosamine product. as far as tendonitis goes all the other treatments are good but the most efficient method ive found out is cortisone shots by the doc. i put up with tendoonitis 4 years and 1 series of shots in the joint knocked out the problem. cortisone shots arent a cure all but can be quite beneficial. it isnt recomended having to many in a years time because as usual with any drug there are sides that can occur. as tommuguns put it the cissuss does actually help ive tried it but it dosent get rid of the prob such as the injections did.

Hey mate.. Does courtisone work by breaking down excess fluid in the joint.... Cos my dog had fluid his joint.... and the vet gave him a shot of cortesone (into the fluid) and it broke down the fluid and returned his joint to normal in about 3 hourss.

[wildstang]

it basically triggers the body into removing any inflamation present, and has pain relief qualities also.

[falconfootball]

I used to have this problem when doing barbell curls. It went away when i emphasized stronger and more flexible forearms.

[Insex]

What type of exercises are you doing when you experience this pain in your elbows and arms? Is it only during Curls? Or is it during other arm exercises too?

I used to have a lot of pain in my elbows while performing exercises, particularly during any exercise that involved excessive stretching in my wrists like Skull Crushers, Cable Press-Downs, Close-Grip Bench Press, Military Press, Power Cleans, ect. I later realized that I lacked a lot of flexibility in my wrists, plus, the excessive amount of stretching in my wrists while using heavy weight, caused most of the pain to shoot up from my wrists to my elbows.

What I did to fix the problem were two things. First, I stretched my wrists more often so that they would be more flexible. Second, I used different hand positions for some exercises. For example, instead of doing Skull Crushers with a barbell, I performed them with dumbbells with my hands in the same position I would use while performing Hammer Curls. Or, if there's a Triceps Bar available (it's like a mini version of a Trap Bar) I'll use that. For Cable Press-Downs, instead of grasping the bar the traditional way, I would take off the bar and just grasp the end of the cable and perform One-Armed Cable Press-Downs as if I were doing Hammer Curls. Or, I would attach a one-armed handle to the cable, but grasp it as if I were performing Biceps Curls.

That's what worked for me. Switching the hand position really helps in reducing the amount of stress placed on the wrists.

[painless2]

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Use a natural carrying angle, aka the Valgus Angle. Simply walk up to the bar with the hands in the anatomical position, grip and begin. It saves a lot of wear and tear on the joints, and put the muscle in its individual best line of pull.

Sometimes a hammer grip can alleviate the discomfort and still allow you to workout which the irritation goes down.

[BonesX]

Originally Posted by Insex

What type of exercises are you doing when you experience this pain in your elbows and arms? Is it only during Curls? Or is it during other arm exercises too?

I used to have a lot of pain in my elbows while performing exercises, particularly during any exercise that involved excessive stretching in my wrists like Skull Crushers, Cable Press-Downs, Close-Grip Bench Press, Military Press, Power Cleans, ect. I later realized that I lacked a lot of flexibility in my wrists, plus, the excessive amount of stretching in my wrists while using heavy weight, caused most of the pain to shoot up from my wrists to my elbows.

Skull crushers seems to be the main one.

The elbow soreness is back again... pretty bad too.
It comes and goes to varying intensities. I figure it may also be related to frequency of lifting, or maybe something in my diet, or maybe even a rise of stress levels.
But its no way going to stop my lifting, except that I lay off the skull crushers and other like exercises.

[torofuerte]

Originally Posted by BonesX

Skull crushers seems to be the main one.

The elbow soreness is back again... pretty bad too.
It comes and goes to varying intensities. I figure it may also be related to frequency of lifting, or maybe something in my diet, or maybe even a rise of stress levels.
But its no way going to stop my lifting, except that I lay off the skull crushers and other like exercises.

You might want to rethink that thinking. I had serious cases of epycondylitis (sp) on both elbows and completely f* up shoulders. But noooo, I would take a few weeks off, and then try to work out again. I tried changing workouts and what not, but in the end, an injured tendon is an injured tendon. It takes months, if not years to heal.

I pretty much stopped bench pressing, bicep curling and direct tricep isolation workouts for more than a year. That's how long it took for shit that plagued me for a decade to heal.

Train smart, not hard.... and sometimes smart training calls for the complete, prolonged abstinence of workouts that directly affect the problematic areas.

[BonesX]

Originally Posted by torofuerte

You might want to rethink that thinking. I had serious cases of epycondylitis (sp) on both elbows and completely f* up shoulders. But noooo, I would take a few weeks off, and then try to work out again. I tried changing workouts and what not, but in the end, an injured tendon is an injured tendon. It takes months, if not years to heal.

I pretty much stopped bench pressing, bicep curling and direct tricep isolation workouts for more than a year. That's how long it took for shit that plagued me for a decade to heal.

Train smart, not hard.... and sometimes smart training calls for the complete, prolonged abstinence of workouts that directly affect the problematic areas.

It will have to get really bad before I stop doing the tricep workouts.
I enjoy the weightlifting. If my elbows get worse then so be it. We only have our bodies temporarily, I think I can deal with a little bit of elbow soreness. Its not really that bad anyway, it just gets irritating sometimes, mainly during the exercise.

[painless2]

You don't necessarily have to stop the workouts but maybe just find the exercises that don't exacerbate the soreness. I find that when i have elbow pain that i can still do dips without any discomfort at all, so find the exercises and do them

[torofuerte]

Originally Posted by BonesX

It will have to get really bad before I stop doing the tricep workouts.
I enjoy the weightlifting. If my elbows get worse then so be it. We only have our bodies temporarily, I think I can deal with a little bit of elbow soreness. Its not really that bad anyway, it just gets irritating sometimes, mainly during the exercise.

It will get bad, for years. Then you'll be on the bench remembering the days when you were able to weight lift, days that will be gone, not for months, but for years because you could not take time off. Mark my words. Not because I wish you bad, but because that's how it is. Been there done that. Been there to the point I couldn't all of the sudden hold a pen.

I was exactly there, thinking "meh, it's minor, I can deal with it." Then it quickly deteriorated where even holding a meager dumbbell WITHOUT EVEN CURLING IT was painful. The deterioration blew up all of the sudden in a matter of weeks.

Unless you are on the juice (which does change things and helps you do things you cannot do naturally) and on cortisone, that's where you'll be heading.

There is a reason even the pros say "train smarter, not just harder." But to each it's own. Good luck and I wish well not to fuck yourself up.

[BonesX]

Well, the elbows did get worse. But now they are better.

About a month or two ago I was doing my normal arm workout of biceps/triceps, and on my second tricep exercise of cable pulldowns, (the fourth set of tricep exercise) I experienced a sudden searing pain in my right elbow, it was so bad I had to drop the weight.
Never experienced anything like that before. I tried to do another set but realized something in my elbow was completely shot, I ended up just leaving the gym.

I took off about two weeks without doing any tricep work at all, then started to ease back into them doing light weight cable pulldowns.
Eventually a few arm workouts later I was able to do my normal tricep weight with the pulldowns, and the elbow soreness seems to be gone now.

I stopped doing skullcrushers and other like exercises completely, and the elbow soreness seems to be gone.
I guess I'll just stick to tricep cable pulldowns with various grips, and dips.