Romney Says Hillary Clinton Likely 2008 Nominee

**Doughboy** · January 26th, 2006, 06:46 PM

WASHINGTON - Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, a Republican considering a run for the White House, says he expects New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton to be the 2008 Democratic presidential nominee. "I think the most likely to get the nomination, of course, is Hillary Clinton," he said during a Christian Science Monitor-sponsored luncheon with reporters on Thursday.
As for his own prospects, Romney brushed aside suggestions his Mormon faith could be a handicap if he seeks the GOP nomination.
"The great majority of Americans ... couldn't care less what my religion is," he said. He noted he has won support in Massachusetts, a state with many Catholic voters, and said religion did not hamper his father George Romney's 1968 presidential candidacy.
The governor predicted the Jack Abramoff corruption scandal would not cripple Republicans as they try to keep control of the House and Senate in next fall's midterm elections.
"The idea that money has influence in politics is not a headline story in major parts of the country," he said.
Romney has made recent trips to key presidential caucus and primary states such as Iowa and New Hampshire.

What do you guys think of her possibly running?

inmate91 · January 26th, 2006, 07:12 PM

Not to be sexist here, but I would question her decision making abilities. She is a stong woman, but would she be comfortable making certain decisions like invading a country or killing people?

**fenngibbon** · January 26th, 2006, 07:56 PM

There's apparently a CNN Gallup poll taken recently that says 51% would definitely NOT vote for her, which isn't as horrible as it might sound (the election is two years away), but I don't know if she could turn enough people around, as she tends to be rather shrill when campaigning, and, as I heard one person put it, she acts as if she has a sense of entitlement.

Now, admittedly, she did win a Senate seat but I think that was for three reasons: one, it was NY, where the Democrats have a distinct electoral advantage; two, she had a certain sympathy vote for all she went through with Bill (that's what drives me nuts about her; she's held up as some sort of feminist icon, but all the power and influence and prestige she's had has all been the byproduct of who she married); and three, she had a complete twit for an opponent who made a number of gross miscalculations. As for her reelection, #1 still applies and so far all the opponents who have indicated they want to run have been complete nonentities. I still think she could be beaten, or at least seriously crippled in a presidential run by making her Senate race about her plans for 2008. If she refuses to say she won't run, her opponent can run saying that New Yorkers deserve a senator who'll look out for them, not a presidential candidate who won't. I don't know if it would be enough to beat her, but I think it could eat into her margin enough that she'd look less than ideal for 2008. And if she says she won't run, she's stuck, unless she wants the mantra in 2008 to be "another lying Clinton."

**Darren0901** · January 26th, 2006, 08:38 PM

Politics are a touchy subject, and I hope this is not taken the wrong way but I don't think that she is the right person to lead a country as powerful and diverse as the United States.

I don't see her as somebody like the "Iron Lady" Margaret Thatcher [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher].
But more like a Kim Campbell [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Campbell]Who single-handedly set the Conservitates back 12 years.

**reallyibelieveu** · January 26th, 2006, 09:13 PM

Darren I agree with you, I just dont see the strength of character and you sense a real feeling that with Hillary "its all about her". Secondly being in the healthcare industry her aborted attempt at national healthcare in this country was frightening. Its not that i am against providing for those that do not have insurance or can not afford healthcare, but her plan was a catastrophe and would have seriously damaged one of the worlds finest healthcare systems. Its not about her being a woman, its about her not being the right woman

**HotOne** · January 26th, 2006, 09:39 PM

any nudes?

I'm going to start a thread in POB tomorrow....

**Doughboy** · January 27th, 2006, 07:50 PM

lol HotOne

**fenngibbon** · January 28th, 2006, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by HotOne

any nudes?

I'm going to start a thread in POB tomorrow....

AUUGH!!!! MY EYES!!!! MY EYES!!!

cooldude · January 28th, 2006, 05:50 AM

anyone has to be a better president than the Nazi running the country right now .. I think Hilary is too divisive and I am looking for a Bobby Kennedy type to come along, but i respect her intellect and her experience and if elected she would be a real decision-making pesiodent rather than a Cheney-propped pretty boy figurehead like W

**dreamweaver** · January 28th, 2006, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by cooldude

anyone has to be a better president than the Nazi running the country right now .. I think Hilary is too divisive and I am looking for a Bobby Kennedy type to come along, but i respect her intellect and her experience and if elected she would be a real decision-making pesiodent rather than a Cheney-propped pretty boy figurehead like W

I'm with you on that a 100% regarding anyone being better than our present Nazi running the country
Hilary could do it, that's my personal opinion
not sure if we will be seeing a Bobby Kennedy type, but then you are allowed to dream

**beukies** · January 28th, 2006, 06:53 AM

As an outsider (non American) I have to say this:

Anyone MUST be better than Little George and Horny Bill!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

**reallyibelieveu** · January 28th, 2006, 07:01 AM

Gents you are always welcome to your opinion, after all that's what this country is supposed to be about, however I really take issue with the continued offhand use of the Nazi label. Its ridiculous, I don't know if it is because we have lost sight of the true horrors of the Nazi regime, or what, but I think out of respect for those that suffered at the hands of the Nazis we should determine to be more circumspect in our utlization of the label.

**dreamweaver** · January 28th, 2006, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by reallyibelieveu

Gents you are always welcome to your opinion, after all that's what this country is supposed to be about, however I really take issue with the continued offhand use of the Nazi label. Its ridiculous, I don't know if it is because we have lost sight of the true horrors of the Nazi regime, or what, but I think out of respect for those that suffered at the hands of the Nazis we should determine to be more circumspect in our utlization of the label.

that's a very good point... Sometimes we get caught in the moment and use the wrong terminology.

Framosa · January 28th, 2006, 10:18 AM

Would agree about not calling Bushie a nazi. Personally I'm more for calling him a facist.

**HotOne** · January 28th, 2006, 12:48 PM

The Clinton’s just had their 30th wedding university…dinning, dancing and a wild night of sex…I don’t know what Hilary did…

cooldude · January 28th, 2006, 03:31 PM

nazi is a type of fascist and i use the term loosely of course; either way, the president demonstrates that he is no friend of freedom or democracy despite the constant use of these terms as talking points -- his administration is taking us down the road to fascism, so i'll go with framosa's rephrasing ...

**irish1416** · January 28th, 2006, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by beukies

As an outsider (non American) I have to say this:
Anyone MUST be better than Little George and Horny Bill!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Yes, Bill Clinton was just a bit of a scumbag in light of his escapades with Monica Lewinski, but what of it? He did not allow it to interfere with the way he ran the country. In eight years he managed to pull the US out of record deficits left over from the Reagan era, and into record surplus (though Bush Jr did indeed manage to ruin that in a mere two years, and make the Reagan deficits look like child's play). Even during the entire impeachment process, the country ran more or less smoothly, and I think that a lot of that had to do with Hilary making some of the decisions behind the scenes. I'm not sure that she will wind up being our first female president, and I agree that she probably isn't the best person for the job, but I think that she could do it.

For all the ethical debates surrounding the Monica Lewinski scandal, I'm not so sure that it was ethical for us to go digging into Clinton's personal life, and in the process totally embarass Hilary and their daughter Chelsea. Can you imagine how horrible it must have been for her? She was, and forever will be, branded for mistakes that she did not make; all because a couple of people violated their own personal ethics to expose another's personal ethical violation. I don't think that was either fair or necessary, but c'est la vie.

And now, we have a president that claims his strongest foundation to be moral wholesomeness; and all the while he is breaking just about every moral value in the book, and steering the country into disaster. I guess it comes down to one simple choice: an "ethical" president who cannot lead his country, or an "unethical" president who did more to help his country than hurt it.

Neither strike me as being particularly good choices; and this, I think, will be one of Hilary's running foundation. She will playoff both Bill and Bush as squabbling, greedy little boys and say something to the effect of "only a woman can solve this problem". She might just win her fair share of votes using this method in addition to casting the Democratic party in a "progressive" light by being the party that supported the first real attempt for a female president. I have no doubt that we would see a record amount of female voters.

My only question is how Bill would handle being the "First Man"...

**Gman1524** · January 28th, 2006, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by reallyibelieveu

Gents you are always welcome to your opinion, after all that's what this country is supposed to be about, however I really take issue with the continued offhand use of the Nazi label. Its ridiculous, I don't know if it is because we have lost sight of the true horrors of the Nazi regime, or what, but I think out of respect for those that suffered at the hands of the Nazis we should determine to be more circumspect in our utlization of the label.

Some have called me a Nazi.

The way I run things around here have led to some people calling me Kitler.

Twisted · January 28th, 2006, 04:55 PM

If the democrats want to win it would be unwise to nominate Hilary...The democrats are basically desparate to get the office back and now is not the time to experiment and see if the american people will elect a woman...and yes that is what it is based on...not her ability...sorry to say...

Im not just saying this to make women believe I am not sexist...but I believe having a woman president would be one of the best things to happen to america since Lincoln...