Holy Sh@t, what did you do America??

**linemanpaul** · January 31st, 2009, 09:45 PM

Some good reads

Gateway Pundit: It's a Recession... Congress Gives Lawmakers $93,000 More to Spend (Video)

Gateway Pundit: Another Hiccup... Daschle Doesn't Pay Taxes Either

**linemanpaul** · February 6th, 2009, 09:12 PM

Manipulation at it's best??

Quote:

Barack Obama
Census Director to Work Directly with White House

By Philip Rucker
President Obama has decided to have the director of the U.S. Census Bureau work directly with the White House, the administration said today, a move that comes as the Census Bureau prepares to conduct the 2010 census that will determine redistricting of congressional seats.

Under the Bush administration, the Census Bureau director reported to the commerce secretary. Obama is adding oversight of the director by senior White House aides, but keeping the bureau itself under the umbrella of the Department of Commerce, White House spokesman Ben LaBolt said.

After Obama nominated a Republican, New Hampshire Sen. Judd Gregg, to head Commerce, Latino advocates voiced concern about him overseeing the politically delicate task of determining the nation's population. But LaBolt suggested Obama's changes to the organizational structure have been long in the making.

"From the first days of the transition the Census has been a priority for the president, and a process he wanted to reevaluate," LaBolt said in a statement this afternoon. "There is historic precedent for the director of the Census, who works for the commerce secretary and the president, to work closely with White House senior management, given the number of decisions that will have to be put before the president. We plan to return to that model in this administration."

The decennial Census is used to redraw district lines for elected seats in Congress and state legislatures, and is always a major issue for minority advocates. The National Association of Latino Elected Officials released a statement on Tuesday, shortly after Obama announced Gregg's nomination, questioning Gregg's willingness to produce the most accurate count of the nation's population.

"As a current member and former chairman of the subcommittee that funds the U.S. Census Bureau, Secretary-designate Gregg fought President Clinton's efforts to increase funding for the Commerce Department to administer the 2000 Census," the statement read. "During his tenure in the U.S. Senate, some policymakers questioned his commitment to supporting the basic functions of the Bureau."

On Capitol Hill, some Republicans took aim at Obama's plan to shift oversight of the Census Bureau.

"Requiring the Census director to report directly to White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel is a shamefully transparent attempt by your administration to politicize the Census Bureau and manipulate the 2010 Census," Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) and Rep. Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.), both of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, wrote in a letter today to Obama. "The constitutionally-mandated decennial Census needs to be fair, accurate and trusted. By circumventing the secretary of commerce's oversight of the Census Bureau and handing it directly to a political operative such as Mr. Emanuel, you are severely jeopardizing the fairness and accuracy of the 2010 Census."

Census Director to Work Directly with White House | 44 | washingtonpost.com

**linemanpaul** · February 6th, 2009, 09:31 PM

My beliefs expressed to a t

Quote:

I have certain rules I live by. My first rule: I don’t believe anything the government tells me.

— George Carlin

**linemanpaul** · February 7th, 2009, 10:13 AM

The Speaker of the House of Idiots

LiveLeak.com - Stupidest Woman Alive: Pelosi: 500...

**linemanpaul** · February 15th, 2009, 07:20 PM

Look here to see how the "Stimulus" money may be spent to stimulate you.

Stimulus Watch: Keeping an Eye on Economic Recovery Spending

**JimmymonFreddy** · February 16th, 2009, 10:45 AM

**SAINT_X** · February 16th, 2009, 12:38 PM

Nice...

....so where were all these uber salient critiques when these problems were being created by your guys ?

Some of you are like the guy who runs his car out of oil and then, rather then take responsibilty, badgers the mechanic who is trying to fix it.

rule or ruin I suppose...

**wil** · February 16th, 2009, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAINT_X

Nice...

....so where were all these uber salient critiques when these problems were being created by your guys ?

Some of you are like the guy who runs his car out of oil and then, rather then take responsibilty, badgers the mechanic who is trying to fix it.

rule or ruin I suppose...

I'll speak for myself in saying that I was STRONGLY opposed to the Bush/Paulson bank bailouts as well as the 2008 "stimulus" plan.

Any idea when you might squeak out a single syllable regarding something on which you disagree with Obama? Or do you think HIS $789 billion plan which includes some tax rebates and a lot of spending is brilliant when Bush's $190 billion plan was evil? Or perhaps my memory is failing... Did you agree with Bush's "stimulus" plan?

**JimmymonFreddy** · February 16th, 2009, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAINT_X

Nice...

....so where were all these uber salient critiques when these problems were being created by your guys ?

Some of you are like the guy who runs his car out of oil and then, rather then take responsibility, badgers the mechanic who is trying to fix it.

rule or ruin I suppose...

there was a spelling error in your post, see if you can find it

I just posted that picture, because I thought the blue matched my signature

btw: I don't have any guys, Saint_X. they got shot off while I was playing Ghost Recon on Xbox one night

**SAINT_X** · February 16th, 2009, 01:58 PM

[quote=
btw: I don't have any guys, Saint_X. they got shot off while I was playing Ghost Recon on Xbox one night

[/QUOTE]

Gotcha...I was involved in a similar slaughter of epic proportions on Wii Call of Duty World at War interactive mode. All day long...I can't shake the screams of my best buddy, captainkill105, as he was repeatedly flamethrowered.
Why...oh God...why was I chosen to survive?

**linemanpaul** · February 16th, 2009, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAINT_X

Nice...

....so where were all these uber salient critiques when these problems were being created by your guys ?

Some of you are like the guy who runs his car out of oil and then, rather then take responsibilty, badgers the mechanic who is trying to fix it.

rule or ruin I suppose...

Barney Frank, that should say enough about the uber critiques, hypocrisy on the Left ???

**linemanpaul** · February 17th, 2009, 09:01 PM

Some words of wisdom that will fall on deaf ears

Quote:

Putin Warns The US Against Socialism
February 16th, 2009 Posted By Pat Dollard.

The Right Perspective:

Russian Prime Minister Vladamir Putin has said the US should take a lesson from the pages of Russian history and not exercise “excessive intervention in economic activity and blind faith in the state’s omnipotence”.

“In the 20th century, the Soviet Union made the state’s role absolute,” Putin said during a speech at the opening ceremony of the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. “In the long run, this made the Soviet economy totally uncompetitive. This lesson cost us dearly. I am sure nobody wants to see it repeated.”

Sounding more like Barry Goldwater than the former head of the KGB, Putin said, “Nor should we turn a blind eye to the fact that the spirit of free enterprise, including the principle of personal responsibility of businesspeople, investors, and shareholders for their decisions, is being eroded in the last few months. There is no reason to believe that we can achieve better results by shifting responsibility onto the state.”

Putin also cautioned the US against using military Keynesianism to lift its economy out of recession, saying, “in the longer run, militarization won’t solve the problem but will rather quell it temporarily. What it will do is squeeze huge financial and other resources from the economy instead of finding better and wiser uses for them.” Putin’s comments come in sharp contrast to Russia’s own military buildup and expansion.

Putin also echoed the words of conservative maverick Ron Paul when he said, “we must assess the real situation and write off all hopeless debts and ‘bad’ assets. True, this will be an extremely painful and unpleasant process. Far from everyone can accept such measures, fearing for their capitalization, bonuses, or reputation. However, we would ‘conserve’ and prolong the crisis, unless we clean up our balance sheets.”

“The time for enlightenment has come. We must calmly, and without gloating, assess the root causes of this situation and try to peek into the future.”

Pat Dollard | Young Americans | Blog Archive Putin Warns The US Against Socialism

**linemanpaul** · February 18th, 2009, 08:26 PM

I want to see all the Democrats come on and defend Obama's Attorney General on this one

YouTube - Eric Holder calls America "a nation of...

**linemanpaul** · February 18th, 2009, 08:32 PM

Something to ponder while watching the World go to Hell

Pat Dollard | Young Americans | Blog Archive A Brief History Of Political Correctness

**wil** · February 19th, 2009, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by linemanpaul

I want to see all the Democrats come on and defend Obama's Attorney General on this one

YouTube - Eric Holder calls America "a nation of cowards" - incites black entitlement and white guilt

A white guy making that speech would be labeled a racist and the media would be all over him eventually forcing him to resign.

But hey, at least he didn't cheat on his taxes.

**linemanpaul** · February 19th, 2009, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wil

A white guy making that speech would be labeled a racist and the media would be all over him eventually forcing him to resign.

But hey, at least he didn't cheat on his taxes.

I am having trouble trying to figure out if they are insane or if I am the one picking the flowers off of the wallpaper????

**helpmespock** · February 20th, 2009, 01:03 AM

yeah what an asshole! racism in America? everyone knows there is no such thing anymore!

Whats he talking about? Having a dialogue? Is he insinuating we should actually talk to one another about it?

How idiotic! Crazy talk!

geez could you guys be any more frightened of black people?

I have lots of black friends.....I can assure you they really don't want to kill you.....and they have one or two hobbies, other then, of course "doin all the white women" trust me.

**wil** · February 20th, 2009, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helpmespock

yeah what an asshole! racism in America? everyone knows there is no such thing anymore!

Whats he talking about? Having a dialogue? Is he insinuating we should actually talk to one another about it?

How idiotic! Crazy talk!

Sure there is still racism in America. There is racism everywhere and there always will be. Nobody is denying that.

What makes this guy an a-hole is his attitude about how "we work together all week then separate for the weekend"... like that means we're racist.

Sorry Mr. Holder... I do stuff primarily with my family on the weekends... and since I'm a white dude and my wife is a white chick that equates to us hanging out with honkeys all weekend. My sister in law's husband is 1/4 Mexican from his mother's side... do I get credit for that???

Another a-hole theory of his is that he insinuates that nobody talks about race. Was he paying attention during the presidential election? All we heard about was the historic significance of the first black president (but God help anyone who suggested it might be wrong for someone to vote for a guy simply for that reason). When the Colts won the Super Bowl a few years ago, what was one of the top story-lines... first black SB-winning head coach (Tony Dungy's response to that question was awesome btw... I like that guy... I hope he goes into broadcasting).

Sorry Mr. Holder... the problem is that apparently only one side is allowed to discuss race. Or only certain opinions on race are allowed to be discussed. Ask Bill Cosby about how his race discussions are treated. And Rush Limbaugh's opinions on how sports media have certain expectations of players based on race were welcomed with open ears weren't they <-- I added that just for you helpmespock since I know you hate Rush and just loooooove Donovan McNabb.

But think about it... those guys had opinions... race was an ingredient in their discussion... but because it wasn't PC those guys got blasted.

Also it seems that only certain blacks are "real" blacks. Ask Clarence Thomas how his acheivements as a black man are lauded.

The discussion of race is everywhere. it's just a matter of which discussions are allowed or not. And since a white dude should have the sense to know that he can't get away with stating certain opinions without being labelled a racist, then maybe he just won't bother saying them. So in that case, perhaps Mr. Holder is correct when he says we're cowards. Some people may just keep silent on the issue of race because they fear that anything they say will get them chastised, ridiculed, harrassed, or perhaps fired. Heck... I almost feel like I should delete this post. Almost.

Interesting though... some dude a few years ago mentioned something about how it would be cool if people were not judged by the color of their skin... how everyone would be considered equal and their race would not matter... he had some kind of dream about it.

**helpmespock** · February 20th, 2009, 02:39 PM

Great post wil. I agree with most if not all of it.

Where did u get this quote though,

"we work together all week then separate for the weekend"...

I did not hear it on that video clip....

but I agree with u, if that was said its stupid...there is like one or two blacks in my neighborhood, but I'm not about to move to south central LA to show I'm down with the brothers, and i don't think that makes me a racist.....but where did this guy say that? listened to the clip again and didn't hear it.

I am all for equal rights for all races, and no discrimination...which IMO means no "affirmative action" as I think that is a dumb ass concept.

I felt the guy was just making a case for further dialogue between the races to promote better understandingof each other....something I think is a worthy goal, and i don't disagree with....can't hurt.

that being said, Blacks DO NOT have a corner on the racism market....nor does America. There is racism everywhere and it seems to be a tendancy of all races religions etc....blacks whites, hispanics, asians, hindu, muslim, christian, etc all these groups engage and have engaged in forms of prejudice and racism thru out mans history and in every corner of the world. It is NOT worse here then other places, and in fact America is actuallyway ahead of the curve IMO on this issue. We still have a lot of work to get to a truly non racist state, but we are doing better then most.

Interestingly the Western slave trade....US and Western europe gets all the attention, (ROOTS etc...)but it was the Eastern slave trade, (Middle east arabic countries moving african slaves to work for them) that was historically far more horrific, and butal...it also extended for many centuries before and lasted after slavery was abolished by the West.

It is always curious to me that many blacks seemingly in a form of rebellion against former white discrimination and racial brutality embrace the Muslim faith......

i guess they missed the whole eastern slave issue, where Muslims were the perpetrators. Their Muslim captors marched the blacks thru the desert to the middle east, left them exposed to the severe elements,the old and young were left behind to die if they couldn't keep up, and most if not all adult males were castrated to prevent aggression....The eastern slave trade extended from about the year 700- 1900 AD....far longer then the more studied western one.

So american blacks might want to do some more research before donning that dish dash and cap....

**wil** · February 20th, 2009, 02:47 PM

This is a link to the text of his speech... Remarks as Prepared for Delivery by Attorney General Eric Holder at the Department of Justice African American History Month Program (2009-02-18)

And here is the portion about the workweek vs weekend stuff... (my "we work together all week then separate for the weekend" line was a paraphrase, but I bolded the statements that spawned my paraphrase)

Quote:

As a nation we have done a pretty good job in melding the races in the workplace. We work with one another, lunch together and, when the event is at the workplace during work hours or shortly thereafter, we socialize with one another fairly well, irrespective of race. And yet even this interaction operates within certain limitations. We know, by "American instinct" and by learned behavior, that certain subjects are off limits and that to explore them risks, at best embarrassment, and, at worst, the questioning of one’s character. And outside the workplace the situation is even more bleak in that there is almost no significant interaction between us. On Saturdays and Sundays America in the year 2009 does not, in some ways, differ significantly from the country that existed some fifty years ago. This is truly sad. Given all that we as a nation went through during the civil rights struggle it is hard for me to accept that the result of those efforts was to create an America that is more prosperous, more positively race conscious and yet is voluntarily socially segregated.