Who would win? Lesnar or Fedor?

**raijin1** · July 25th, 2009, 02:15 PM

Ok, time for a new poll.

I haven't followed MMA too closely for a while now, but after all the hype over Lesnars defeat of Mir, I decided to do some catching up. Watched all of Lesnars fights, and lots of Fedor's.

Now given that their different organizations could come to some kind of agreement, who would win this matchup?

Lesnar has really surprised me in his dominance, even in his first loss to Mir he was winning before he had to submit. But he doesn't really seem to have any game other than using his size to beat the hell out of his opponents.

Fedor, however is pure technique and cold concentration. We've seen him take down oppenents much larger than himself before, and his record speaks for itself.

As they stand now, I still give Fedor the clear advantage. If Lesnar could improve his skill to even come close to his power, I might eat my words. But I don't really see that happening any time soon.

I would love to see this matchup.

**A1food4U** · July 25th, 2009, 03:59 PM

I think that Fedor could easily keep Lesnar back with his leg power. Crappling edge to Lesnar but I haven't seen many that get Fedor off his feet.

JustAbout · July 25th, 2009, 04:02 PM

If the fight ever happens, hopefully it will. My vote is for Fedor. I believe Fedor is hands down the better fighter, but I would like to see how he handles Lesnar's speed.

I'm amazed at how fast Lesnar is able to move, especially for his size. To me it seems that Lesnar is able to just overwhelm his opponents with his speed ,size, and power without the need for any real skill. I mean all he seems to do is bull doze'em to the ground then sit on top of them until the ref stops fight because the other fighter just gets pounded in the face to much. That works for awhile but eventally he's going to go up against someone who can deal with his speed and then I believe it'll be lights out for Lesnar. I can't wait till it happens and hopefully it will be Fedor that does it.

That's just my uneducated opinion.

JustAbout

JustAbout · July 25th, 2009, 08:20 PM

I just read an interesting article/interview about the possible signing, or lack thereof, of Fedor.

Why Fedor Emelianenko Will Not Sign With The UFC?The Real Reason! | Bleacher Report

JustAbout

**raijin1** · July 25th, 2009, 11:29 PM

Good article.... sums up a lot of what I have heard and read about why this fight may never happen.

As much as Dana and UFC 'officially scolded' Lesnar for him playing the 'heel' after his win over Mir, you know they were really eating that shit up because its going to sell a ton of tickets. More money in Dana's pocket.

I hope this isn't a sign that MMA is going the way of the WWE and turning into a media circus...

**helpmespock** · July 26th, 2009, 02:05 AM

I don't like the guy, but I'd give it to Lesnar. He is just too quick and too strong. He has decent greco roman skills. He would just overpower fedor. Similar to, but no where near as lopsided as Mir.

**BlackMagicPanther** · July 26th, 2009, 07:39 AM

Fedor would take this fight, however, I'd like to speak about the former quotes of Lesnar's lack of skill.

Throughout the history of the UFC there have been wrestlers who have used their skills to dominate fights. Tito is a great example of this. As is Matt Hughes. Couture used his wrestling with a little dirty boxing thrown in. GSP in his last three fights hasn't used BJJ or much of his striking at all. It's been take down of Fitch/BJ/Alves and ground and pound. Lesnar's wrestling is better than each of those champions. He was a Division 1A Champion. His wrestling is probably better than any MMA fighter ever. His striking is rudimentary and I am pretty certain the only submission stuff he will ever bother learning is defense, cuz he would rather beat his opponent up.

So, please don't paint him as someone who can't fight.

JustAbout · July 26th, 2009, 06:41 PM

BlackMagic,

You're right, we're not giving enough credit to Lesnar's skill set. Espically since he's the UFC heavyweight champion in what three fights. I just hope he's expanding his abilities beyond his wrestling. If he doesn't someone will have his number.

JustAbout

**wildstang** · July 26th, 2009, 10:26 PM

lesnar's my man! hands down too damn powerful! being of similar size i know the power level and have fought enough in my lifetime mainly in military smokers n bar brawls 2 realize power + wrestling skills and basic boxing skills can get you very far in the fight scene.

**A1food4U** · July 29th, 2009, 09:14 AM

Never said the man can't fight. He's a champion wrestler, he's king of the ground and pound no doubt of that. BUT, Fedor has experience keeping larger, sometimes much larger men off of him until he can plant that awesome sweeping kick.

Mir made the mistake of thinking he could stand in front of Lesnar and wait for him to make a mistake the way he did in the first fight. Fedor is quicker than Mir and uses a style that keeps him moving in order to get room to throw the leg. As I said before, on the ground Lesnar is king but I don't think he can get Fedor to play it his way

**OBh2o** · July 31st, 2009, 01:59 AM

Fedor by submission, tko, stopage, knockout or whatever is required. Fedor is the best MMA fighter ever. Mark my words if the fight ever happens ... Lesnar will fair no better than those before him - he will get crushed. It is an interesting thread on paper but a sure one sided one in the ring. Not even close... Fedor!!!

ps- in response to a comment above which cracks me up--- NO ONE over powers Fedor.

JustAbout · August 2nd, 2009, 05:16 PM

Here's another article that I was reading. It seems to be completely opposite from the interview I posted before. It really makes you wonder which is right or is it a combination of both?

Enjoy:

One man to blame in UFC-Fedor breakdown - UFC - Yahoo! Sports

JustAbout

**ItalianStallion** · August 3rd, 2009, 02:01 AM

i hate lesnar...i dont like the way he acts..i dont like the way he fights...hes just a big fast guy...if he was 60lbs lighter he would get destroyed...his advantage is superior beyond belief..his weight class should be superheavyweight, not regular heavy..when he fought couture he was about 50lbs heavier than him...thats like sayin whod win in a fight between bj penn(155) and anderson silva(205)...while ur all gonna say thats the game...sure thats the way it goes the hw division is from 220-265.....the biggest weight difference by any margin..factor in sum1 like Lesnar cuttin to get to 265, i wouldnt be suprised if he fought at a legitimate weight of 280....is he fast? yes..is he agile? yes..is he strong? yes.....BUT the man lacks technique...u watch a gsp fight and u learn technique(he knos everything about the MMA world)..u look at lesnar and all he does is charge u n pounds u into the ground...Fedor is just a freak of nature..he has soo many more fights against TOP competitors at the peak of their game(Cro Cop, Nogueira, etc) Lesnar has beaten Couture(4oyr old guy, who while bein a champion was not at peak) and Mir once...while Mir is a competitor he is by no where near the top of his game/ or the top of the HW division...while Fedor is and has been on top for since i can remember....dont get me started on how Lesnar gets a title shot after a loss...Match 1: Loses to Mir..Match 2: title shot vs Couture Match 3: Defeats Mir and champ again....umm does that make sense? Kimbo slice was never given a title shot and hes been more criticized for makin his money and fighting guys like tank abbott and james tompson etc....Lesnar is a freak of nature...but so if Fedor...fedor has looked untouchable against everyone of his recent opponents...HOWEVER if i was a bettin man(and i am) i would wait to c the line on the fight..id bet on the underdog because this fight can go either way...but i think Fedor would win

**cujo-1** · August 4th, 2009, 01:49 AM

lesnar will dramatically improve over time. as far as kimbo slice he made a fool of him self!

**ItalianStallion** · August 4th, 2009, 03:06 AM

wit no doubt lesnar will improve..every day he gets betta until maybe an injury or if he ko's than maybe he will slow down n downfall..what makes u say kimbo made a fool of himself? kimbo is a black guy from the streets who did nothing but streetfight people...sum1 came to him n said he kimbo can u be my bodyguard...well give u this much money and all u do is hang out wit hot chicks...than sum1 said hey kimbo how would u like to be on the internet, u fight, we record, we sell dvds and u make money....than Elite Xc came and said hey Kimbo u wanna fight for 500grand against fighters....kimbo loses and now every1 bashes him...wtf? the man never said once hes the best in the world, people and organizations use him to make money...hes a prop to there game...they make money and so does he...win win....
Now KImbo loses his fight, his promotional people file for bankruptcy...he than goes to the UFC and signs on as a contestant...a CONTESTANT..on the new Ultimate Fighter...this man headlined paperview events...he made 6figures per fight, and now hes fighting on a reality show to get a contract wit the UFC...what did Brock Lesnar do? wrestled in college...went to WWF(fake fighting) than decided to try out UFCand bring his lame "badboy" attitude..loses his first fight vs Mir...than gets a title shot at Couture and rematch wit Mir for undisputed title...than showboats and makes an ass of himself and is hated by the fans....if ne1 made a fool of himself its Lesnar, not Kimbo...if ur gonna say Kimbo is MMa hes streetfighting...one dimensional and no ground game..im gonna say same thing bout lesnar, no fighting skill other than jump on u and punch, ground n pound...also dont say hey atleast he wins, because of the o say 20 sum fights ive seen Kimbo fight in, he got KO'd once...while lesnar has had 4 fights...lets see his record in 16more fights and see how Lesnar stacks up then...
and by no way does my post mean i think Kimbo would beat Lesnar...that is undecided for me...i dont think ne1 around today other than Fedor could beat Lesnar heads up..of course ne joe schmo could get lucky n beat him, but Lesnar is a beast and a hard guy to beat...i would love to see Kimbo and him go at it tho...

**raijin1** · August 4th, 2009, 11:05 AM

Fedor just signed with Strikeforce so this fight probably won't happen any time soon. Oh well...

**wildstang** · August 4th, 2009, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raijin1

Fedor just signed with Strikeforce so this fight probably won't happen any time soon. Oh well...

oh well! that sucks! woulda loved 2 have seen the fight but i'd be willing to wager fedor experienced some serious butterflies at the thought of the fight as well as lesnar.

**Carnitas** · August 4th, 2009, 02:55 PM

Yeah I read that yahoo article a few days ago, and his agent wanted 50 percent? Thats fucking nuts, so I don't blame Dana at all for not signing Fedor. Maybe in a couple of years when he keeps defeating his opponents we will see a Lesnar Fedor fight.

**BlackMagicPanther** · August 4th, 2009, 07:22 PM

Stallion, you are missing a couple of points.

First Frank Mir is in the best shape of his life. He has also improved his striking from sad to very solid. Even Fedor couldn't punch out Nog. So, I don't understand why you would say that Mir isn't on the top of his game. He clearly is.

Second is that Lesnar fought and owned Heath Herring before he got his title shot. Herring has a lot of impressive victories on his resume including over men as big as Lesnar, but Brock dominated him. His one right hand sent Herring end over end by about 6 feet.

Third is that there was no one else who could legitimately step in to the fight when Randy was ready to go. Everyone else had just lost within their past fight or had just won only a month previous. No one fights in back to back months.

I also kind of believe that Dana was looking to punish Randy over his lawsuit and holding up of the title. What better candidate to beat him up than a guy who outweighs him by 60+ pounds?

**ItalianStallion** · August 5th, 2009, 02:22 AM

BMP:
I disagree about Mir..he was in top form before he got into that motorcycle accident years ago..he than put on a lot of weight during rehab and when he came back to fight he was so outta shape it was hard to watch...that bein said we can argue back and forth on where he ranks as a hw... i think he'd be a top 10 fighter but his reputation has caught up to his name kinda like Couture( i dont think hes a top fighter nemore but because of his resume he is considered a top fighter) also heath herring knocked down Nog when they fought, but obviously Nog has gotten slower and aged poorly, he is by no way the same fighter he used to be..il talk bout herring later..i dont think Mir or Herring got betta i just think Nog got worse
Secondly I think Heath Herring is garbage...his only big wins were against Mark Kerr in 01 and Kongo by decision last year...he has a lotta fights and experience..im actually suprised that Lesnar couldnt Ko him or finish him off
3rdly: there is no way a guy should get a title shot coming off of a win wit a 1-1 record especially because his win was a decision, if he Kod herring id have a different take but he didnt....to punish Couture i believe that could be a reason..Dana has a new guy he wants to promote, randy thinks hes hot shit, dana puts new v old and winner is dana...if lesnar wins he can promote him as the next big thing...if couture wins than randy is a legend blah blah blah