rec drug test

farmcat · September 5th, 2006, 08:50 PM

will ativan and these type prescription meds show on a drug test for a job?A bud works there and was tested and juice did not show.

**PythonPower** · September 6th, 2006, 01:19 AM

normally no. but...depends what kind of drug test you are going for and who it is for...

**Lil-King** · September 6th, 2006, 02:25 AM

I think thier looking for illegal substances eg. marrajana, coke.
I guess you could mess up the test for some substances by using large amounts creatine, than the test says you have high creatine and you just say yeah I workout and take creatine... people do this for parole.

DNICEONER · September 6th, 2006, 02:55 AM

I believe ativan is a benzodiazapine and will show up in that class on the standard NIDA 5 panel

DNICEONER · September 6th, 2006, 02:58 AM

AAS is not a standard in testing... it really depends on what kind of test is being done... and you dont know that until its too late...and if you ask way beforehand it is considered suspicious...

but yeah ativan will show up

farmcat · September 10th, 2006, 11:52 PM

how long would it take to get out of system and will it still show on that test with the use of less than 1 milligram a day of ativan?

DNICEONER · September 11th, 2006, 07:45 PM

it depends how long youve been using..

do you take it as a prescription meaning everyday for atleast a month or longer? then you can expect several weeks before being clean..

recreational use like a couple days a week, for a couple of weeks.. then a week tops..

are you guys aware of the QUALITY/ EFFECTIVE cleansing products out there? pm me for info...

i was on probation for 5 years coming up clean every 2 weeks>>>>

**Bravo** · September 17th, 2006, 05:29 PM

Folks,

I’m a little surprised at what I’m reading here. As I understand it, Ativan is a
powerful drug prescribed by appropriate medical professionals to mitigate
specific medical issues. Using any drug of this type in other than the prescribed
manner violates US law, but also violates the basic tenants of promoting the
fitness of mind, body and soul.

Anyone taking prescribed drugs and working where drug testing is conducted
should maintain the prescription as proof, or if necessary they can contact their
pharmacist for a copy of the prescription. Keep in mind that many drugs carry
warnings that must be adhered too. If I can trust the internet, you should not use
Ativan while driving or operating equipment or machinery. You could be held
criminally or civilly responsible if you were involved in an accident while under
the influence…prescription, or no prescription.

Any drug can be detected, depending on the trouble and cost the testing authority
is willing to incur. Normally these entities utilize a bank of tests designed to
detect a few of the more commonly abused drugs, with an occasionally offbeat
drug test thrown in for good measure. Quite often, especially in random testing
they establish rather high minimal standards that allow many users to avoid
prosecution, or termination….for awhile. Depending on the seriousness of the
circumstances, cellular testing of hair, fingernails or other such items can reveal
drug use months, years and sometimes even decades in the past.

Biological and synthetic substances are placed on a prohibited status because
their misuse can be very destructive to your mind and body. Unfortunately, some
of the formulas touted to flush and disguise drugs in your system from legitimate
testing are just as poison. Admittedly they might help you avoid detection from
some of the more basic tests used by the majority of random testers, but they
don’t flush the toxins from your system before they start causing irreparable
damage to you. They are not regulated and their use risks your health almost as
much the drugs. Do I need to mention that the purchase price is the same as
flushing your money down the drain, and who are you going to complain to if it
doesn’t work as advertised? Depending on the legal statutes where you live, you
could also be charged with conspiracy to avoid prosecution if you purchase, sell
or use these substances to conceal the use of illegal substances. Dniceoner, your
post could be construed as a violation of this law, as well as in poor taste
considering the nature of this site.

There are tons and tons of good information here and I encourage you to review
it. A bit of advice you will often find concerning the three most abused drugs in
the United States (Nicotine, Caffeine and Alcohol) is moderation. Ounce for
ounce, the illegal recreational and prescription drugs pose much greater health
risks and counseling avoidance, or use within accepted medical guidelines seems
the only proper course I can suggest. The owner has decreed that we be open to
sharing information, even on a subject such as this and I respect his choice. I
have tried to provide some information and perhaps a dissenting opinion that
recreational drug use is acceptable to those pursuing a healthy lifestyle. If you
have any questions, please feel free to contact me.

DNICEONER · September 18th, 2006, 08:48 AM

^ Hey NARC, your not at work..... Outta here wit that

DNICEONER · September 18th, 2006, 08:52 AM

might I add that you appear to be unaware of the anabolic steroid discussion rooms present within this site.

might I also add that what people do on their own time is not your business.

Also, 'toxin flush' drinks are absolutly harmless, and may also be considered beneficial given the complex carbs and vitamins and minerals contained therein.

bluebird · September 18th, 2006, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DNICEONER

^ Hey NARC, your not at work..... Outta here wit that

Why don't you try to be a little more respectful in your reply? I don't give a pile what you do, but Bravo made a RESPECTFUL, informative post on the ramifications of (prescribed) drug misuse in regards to drug testing on the job.

**Darren0901** · September 18th, 2006, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluebird

Why don't you try to be a little more respectful in your reply? I don't give a pile what you do, but Bravo made a RESPECTFUL, informative post on the ramifications of (prescribed) drug misuse in regards to drug testing on the job.

^ ^

I am with BB on this one.

**Bravo** · September 18th, 2006, 06:57 PM

“Hey NARC, your not at work..... Outta here wit that”

NARC? Wait, let me think if I am offended...no, in fact I
appreciate the compliment. A Narc is a law enforcement official
that cares about people and receives low pay, along with
unwarranted abuse for the unending task of protecting us from the
evils of this world. They have my respect and appreciation. Would
it surprise you to learn I’m just a college student? Of course, that
isn’t exactly the whole story – but you’re implied sentiments don’t
exactly inspire any further revelations on my part.

“might I add that you appear to be unaware of the anabolic steroid
discussion rooms present within this site.”

I am well aware of these threads; but while I personally disagree
with their utilization, it can be effectively argued that there is a
vast difference in the risk/reward ratio involved in using
performance enhancing drugs as opposed to misusing prescription
drugs or recreational drug use. That, along with testing were the
topics of discussion in this thread at the time of my previous post.

”might I also add that what people do on their own time is not your
business.”

Frankly, I find this statement somewhat humorous. This site is
dedicated to suggestions, recommendations, facts and opinions
concerning what to do with your time in regards to adapting a
healthy lifestyle. I believe my post fell well within those
parameters, although I realize there might be the occasional
individual that disagrees.

In addition; upon examination, I find this type of activity is my
business. When people violate the law, it is my duty as a citizen
(not a Narc, but a citizen) to report the illegal activity. Do I
report all illegal activity I witness? Not hardly, but when I
consider that one out seven vehicles on the road after darkness is
being operated by someone influenced by intoxicants, and that a
large ratio of industrial accidents are caused by individuals under
the influence of drugs I become concerned for my safety and the
safety of those I care about. Need I mention the 40 billion dollars
estimated in loss revenue due to illegal drug used on the job, the
destination of illegal drug profits, or the increased insurance,
medical costs and taxes we pay to provide comfort for those
suffering from drug addictions and their associated medical
ailments? I agree with the idea you expressed, it is a basic tenet of
life in the United States. However; when a person’s pursuit of
happiness interferes with the rest of society’s right to life, liberty
and pursuit of happiness, then a responsible citizen should feel
called upon to take prudent action to correct the situation.
Suggesting avoidance as a healthier alternative seemed like a most
reasonable course of action to me.

“Also, 'toxin flush' drinks are absolutly harmless, and may also be
considered beneficial given the complex carbs and vitamins and
minerals contained therein.”

I disagree with this statement. Homemade and commercial “flushes”
are responsible for the hospitalization of people everyday. Enter
an emergency room looking anemic or dehydrated and someone is
likely to ask you if you have used any substance to flush your body
as part of a medical procedure, diet plan (unhealthy diet plan I
might add) or for any other reason. Medical professionals are well
aware of the adverse effects these substances have upon your
person. I suppose it is theoretically possible to design a flush that
would remove a specific intoxicant, but all the “flushes” I am aware
of simply flush your entire system, normally removing more vitamins,
minerals and water from your body than evidence of drug use. I
suppose they could be made healthy, but why should they when the
only people using them are people trying to hide the fact they’re
violating the law or their legal terms of employment. Such unethical
practices do little to inspire much reason to produce a product
based on such ethical principals as concern for your health.

Disagree if you wish, but I close with the suggestion that utilizing
prescription drugs as prescribed and the avoidance of recreational
drugs and many of the practices associated with their use is by far
the healthier lifestyle choice.

**Old_Fart2** · September 19th, 2006, 09:10 AM

I was going to respond to DNICEONER but then saw that Bravo had already said everything that I wanted to say and, I might add, said it better than I could.

The line between one's personal rights and interference with other's rights becomes very fuzzy at times.

As an employer here's my opinion on Farmcat's friend's situation: find another job. If he took a job knowing that drug tests were going to be conducted and is not willing to stay clean in order to pass the tests, then he shouldn't be working there. Find a job where drug use is tolerated.

farmcat · September 20th, 2006, 05:56 AM

Thanks for replies.I'm sucking it up and coming off the medicine,which was my intent the whole time.the reason for the questions were because i'm just worried it would still be in my system at the time of test.

**Bravo** · September 20th, 2006, 11:18 PM

I think you're making a great choice! Don't hesitate to seek medical advice
concerning drug issues like this, expert advice can be very valuable. Sorry we
couldn't really answer your question, but the system is set up to avoid that kind of
predictability. Good luck!

DNICEONER · September 21st, 2006, 03:07 AM

Wow.. you guys are strange. First of all how does everyone get offended because I playfully called the guy a NARC, which is slang for narcotics officers..

lol get a hold of yourselves. Maybe I too should make a whole bunch of different screen names and give everyone negative review points as well.

Thirdly, everyone getting all self-righteous about themselves, all i did was respond to the original posters question. And your jumping down my throat for responding to this guy who called me out by name in his post...

anyway the most ridiculous statement Ive read is that toxin flush drinks are unhealthy and cause dehydration... where in the world did you come up with this notion? These drinks saturate the body and are supposed to be used with 16-32 ounces of water. After one drinks these they are totally the opposite of dehydrated. These are health and nutrition supplements! what are you thinking of?

by the way your future in law enforcement is guaranteed.. NARC

everyone get a hold of yourselves...bunch of clowns

bluebird · September 21st, 2006, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DNICEONER

Wow.. you guys are strange. First of all how does everyone get offended because I playfully called the guy a NARC, which is slang for narcotics officers..

lol get a hold of yourselves. Maybe I too should make a whole bunch of different screen names and give everyone negative review points as well.

Thirdly, everyone getting all self-righteous about themselves, all i did was respond to the original posters question. And your jumping down my throat for responding to this guy who called me out by name in his post...

anyway the most ridiculous statement Ive read is that toxin flush drinks are unhealthy and cause dehydration... where in the world did you come up with this notion? These drinks saturate the body and are supposed to be used with 16-32 ounces of water. After one drinks these they are totally the opposite of dehydrated. These are health and nutrition supplements! what are you thinking of?

by the way your future in law enforcement is guaranteed.. NARC

everyone get a hold of yourselves...bunch of clowns

Quote:

i was on probation for 5 years coming up clean every 2 weeks>>>>

LOL! I can see you wasted no time sharpening your social skills during your 5 years probation. You, too, are a very funny man.