lower back and lower abdominals...

farhan007 · April 2nd, 2007, 02:43 PM

i find it hard to target those areas.... i do my cardio(3 mile run and still increasing week to week)... and proper dieting....

I heard before that the waist is the last to go. Its not like im oozing fat from there(my waist is a 31), but its still "soft".

how can i target these areas?

**Insex** · April 2nd, 2007, 05:38 PM

Increase your intensity during those runs. For example, try to continue to cover the same amount of distance, but try to finish the run in a shorter amount of time. You'll find that not only does it take a greater amount of effort to complete, but you'll burn more Calories too, because of that extra effort that is involved.

Recently, we've had a short discussion on good abdominal exercises that place more emphasis on the lower region. Read it in the following thread:

Abdominal help?

**Italianangel** · April 9th, 2007, 11:31 PM

would have to see what proper diet means......list the foods, meals etc.
Also agree with Insex on the cardio.
Some people have to eat pretty clean to get down low enough in bf to see less spare tire and more 6 pack.
Linda

**wildstang** · August 5th, 2007, 01:07 AM

can also add some hydroxy cut into the equation as long as your in good (heart) health to increase calorie burn. if the workouts intense enough you will see results. it does increase your bodys core tempature thus making you sweat like you took a shower, but that increase in body temp also attributes to the amount of calories consumed from the workout. you will need to compensate with more fluid intake also.

**johnny_on_the_spot** · August 5th, 2007, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by wildstang

can also add some hydroxy cut into the equation as long as your in good (heart) health to increase calorie burn. if the workouts intense enough you will see results. it does increase your bodys core tempature thus making you sweat like you took a shower, but that increase in body temp also attributes to the amount of calories consumed from the workout. you will need to compensate with more fluid intake also.

that is the second post of yours that ive read that you tell people to use hydroxy cut... do you work for them or own stock in the company or something???

short cuts work for somethings, like driving - but losing weight isnt one of them. there is a reason why it is hard - because if it wasnt, then it wouldnt be worth doing... just suck it up, put a little extra work in and you will get there in time...

**wildstang** · August 5th, 2007, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot

that is the second post of yours that ive read that you tell people to use hydroxy cut... do you work for them or own stock in the company or something???

short cuts work for somethings, like driving - but losing weight isnt one of them. there is a reason why it is hard - because if it wasnt, then it wouldnt be worth doing... just suck it up, put a little extra work in and you will get there in time...

reason i mentioned "ephedrine" hydroxy cut is becuase it has been proven to scientifically burn fat at an accelerated rate when taken in conjuction with a sound workout plan. thus cutting down on the amount of lean mass lost in the equation. and no i do not work for them......ive just seen many positive result from friends and others that have used it is all. im in no way pushing the compound just giving advice as you are in this thread after all thats what were here for isn't it? or is it that im new to the sight and you just want to rag me on it thinking im inexperienced? ive probably been in the gym and seen more things in my lifetime then youve experienced. ive got over 20 years logged in the gym and damn proud of it. just cause im new to this particular sight dosen't meen my advice isn't worth trying dude. yes it is a short cut but it is one designed to cut down on the lean tissue lost.

**wildstang** · August 5th, 2007, 12:27 PM

and besides thereare plenty of proffesional athletes who do use it. it has been banned from the NFL for example and some of the athletes using it there had been repromanded for using it. im usure if they can legally use it now since it has been re-approved by the FDA.

**pliny_2001** · August 5th, 2007, 01:22 PM

There's no reason for people to be getting defensive, unless you're actively trying to piss people off.

Ephedra's been shown to help burn calories, but the reason that alot of people on the non-AAS side look down on it is that it's only a temporary fix - by learning to work at a higher intensity, or get a better diet, you'll get the same effects, and they'll end up sticking around. Stimulants will raise your metabolism or your energy level, but - like most pharmacological fixes - the positive effect goes away when it's removed. So alot of people (myself included) will tell you to work harder, work smarter, and not screw around w/ stimulants (full disclosure: when I'm exhausted before I even go to the gym, I'll drink some Red Bull. But no one's going to recommend drinking pure sugar as a method for fat loss.). And the reason alot of people on the AAS side look down on ephedra b/c there are stronger drugs that end up working alot better. So it's really a worst-of-both-worlds.

And professional athletes do alot of things that I wouldn't. I don't like dog-fights, and I'm not a particular fan of paying child support to a wide variety of women. The NFL ban has nothing to do with US legality - they're banning it as a performance enhancer and as unsafe (kind of a knee-jerk reaction, IMO, to several deaths, but I'm not Tagliabue).

As to the actual question, there's really no such thing as "lower abs" to target (it's all one muscle), so you're really concerned with over-all fat-loss. You'll just have to get leaner still. But I will toss in a recommendation for hanging leg raises (done very strictly) - when your legs are vertical at the top, add in a slight 'crunch' where you try to raise your feet even higher -- it's a killer addition to an already great exercise.

For your lower back, I'm a fan of both the roman chair and reverse hyper-extensions. Of course, none of these more specific targeting exercises should take the place of squats and deadlifts for improving the strength of your core muscles.

**wildstang** · August 5th, 2007, 02:01 PM

reason i defended myself and seemed defensive is because no matter how you look at it......if you take any type of supplement. that is a short cut. and i would be willing to bet that there isn't oe person on this sight who cant say he hasnt taken some sort of supplement. weither it be protein shakes(plenty of compounds in it including stimulants to the body) or ephedrine. just cause a few dislike it for there particular reasons dosent meen a person shouldnt use it. they can obtain there weight loss goals quicker and retain there gains with strict diet after, wich is why they dieted and excercise in the first place to drop the weight. after all most people who take anabolics.....isnt the real reason behind it to obtain faster results? whats the difference then weither it be to gane mass or loss mass(fat).