all talk of sex and not enough of love

**angelfaces** · October 9th, 2007, 02:12 PM

Whatever happened to Love I say

Whatever happened to true 'undying Love'
Whatever happened to 'i'll walk through fire for him'(or her?)
Whatever happened to 'heart body - and soul!'

Not that sex is overrated - sex is great!
But surely True Love is the greatest

Whitney Houston's 'didn't we almost have it all', and its all I got to say about that

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**its1** · October 9th, 2007, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by angelfaces

Whatever happened to Love I say

Whatever happened to true 'undying Love'
Whatever happened to 'i'll walk through fire for him'(or her?)
Whatever happened to 'heart body - and soul!'

Not that sex is overrated - sex is great!
But surely True Love is the greatest

Whitney Houston's 'didn't we almost have it all', and its all I got to say about that

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Those are good questions, I don't think I have the correct answer but I will give it a shot:

I think we talk about lust because we have felt it many times, just about everyone has felt it at sometime or another, so everyone can relate to the feeling, or has something to add to another persons perception of the feeling.
Now I am speaking for myself: I have never felt love

I believe I have loved in the past but I have never been loved back in return, so was it really love if it wasn't mutual? I think what I am getting at here is if a person hasn't experienced love can they really discuss it at any length ? They could say it but could they really talk about it.

Or I can use the fall-back excuse, most of us are guys and we are just Horny

thanks for the topic

**gunshowbabe** · October 9th, 2007, 03:21 PM

Sadly love just isn't a topic people like talking about all the time, but it's true. Some people might not want to think about it, they are just content, or they just have not experienced that love that they just have to brag about. That's fine, it's just that I wouldn't expect too much love talk. Most people try to escape that topic, if you know what I mean.

**ColdFX** · October 9th, 2007, 04:19 PM

Unfortunately I do not believe in "love", except the love of direct family.

Roughly 1/3-1/2 of all marriages in North America end in divorce, and I promise you that all of those marriages were started with "honey I going to love you till the end of time" etc.

Being a child of divorced parents I have seen first hand how relationships can fail, and how people change.
"Love" seems to be more luck than anything else, because people change, and so do relationships.

**mooshue** · October 9th, 2007, 04:20 PM

People have a lot more options to find a partner now a days. With means of communications such as this board for example, someone can pretty much find whoever and whatever they want to fill a void. Everyone is taught by religion that they must find 1 mate and stay with for eternity. The real world however, doesnt work that way. You can marry and divorce within a matter of hours apart. There is a lot more temptation available due to these new means of communications than there were 50 years ago. I mean people were still trying to segregate less than a century ago, backward minded people or simple minded people who were just going with the flow and afraid to stray. In current times, people are much more able to express themselves and not live in fear or follow directions like find 1 person and marry them and be faithfull to them forever. All that does it lead to regret if you dont experience all the world has to offer you first. That is why love doesnt really truly exist the way you stated it. Everyone thinks they are in love when they find a new partner, but time is the ultimate test. Dont rush into marriage and be like everyone with a closed mind wants you to be, and you will have a better shot at finding true love.

**varbo** · October 9th, 2007, 04:43 PM

I think there is a lot of lust talk because of the nature of the site. Most would be here to enhance their health and improve their physical appearance. So, since it is a very physical site in which a healthier person feels more inclined for sex and a person who feels good about themselves also is more inclined for sex. Add in that a physically attractive person has more sexual apportunities given to them you see the trend. Other sites that deal with more emotional health would have more love talk where as we more talk physical health whis would result in more sex talk. Just my thought.

TheFly · October 9th, 2007, 05:05 PM

People change, and no matter how well you may think you know an individual; you will never truly know them, primarily due to fear, societal standards and whatever else excuse or justification people use to not share their thoughts. Either way that is unfortunately human nature.

I'm sure more then a few of us, if not all of us have been burned on one or more occasions. Personally it's made me rather cynical, which is rather sad since I am an individual that was raised to respect marriage and I would think I have rather strong family values as a result of my upbringing. On a brighter note, its those lessons that we have learned that not only prevent us from freely opening up, but they also serve to protect us from individuals that would take advantage of us.

Do I believe in love? yes, do I think I will ever find it? I don't know, but thats why we have nuptial agreements

. I'm sorry but if a woman ever refuses a nuptial agreement, I'm out of there in a heartbeat. There is no justification to a refusa....Im getting off topic lol.

Loving someone? Possible.
Both people loving each other? Rare.

Why don't guys talk about love?....because we are guys, we certainly won't be talking about it on a body building forum

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**angelfaces** · October 9th, 2007, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by its1

Those are good questions, I don't think I have the correct answer but I will give it a shot:

I think we talk about lust because we have felt it many times, just about everyone has felt it at sometime or another, so everyone can relate to the feeling, or has something to add to another persons perception of the feeling.
Now I am speaking for myself: I have never felt love I believe I have loved in the past but I have never been loved back in return, so was it really love if it wasn't mutual? I think what I am getting at here is if a person hasn't experienced love can they really discuss it at any length ? They could say it but could they really talk about it.

Or I can use the fall-back excuse, most of us are guys and we are just Horny

thanks for the topic

Hmm can't disagree at all there, its true to feel that awesome love for someone on a deep level isnt common. You've got me questioning something too that is love really love if the other person doesn't? I thought i'd been in love once but I guess no I haven't then

he said he felt it back but you know if someone loves you by the way they treat you whats that phrase again - actions speak louder than words!

It's true also that sex is a more interesting topic to talk about because its more widely experienced whereas love isnt, probably too if I think about it I myself write about love think about the person i'm in love with rather than have discussions about it, guess it's jus one of those things better felt than spoken

For Mooshue

(still haven't figured out how to quote more than one msg in a reply!) I'm not talkin about marriage relationships or loyalty or following direction and religion etc any intelligent person would know that marriage is a contract, direction is for people who cant think for themselves and religion stems out of fear(debatable,tho not looking for one thanks

!)the fear of being alone or that of sickness or death maybe...anyway...enough of that!
The love i'm talkin about is the one Forrest Gump felt for his sweetheart or the one Jack felt for Rose in Titanic, really can't see them wanting anyone else but each other no matter what change or circumstances came their way....blah blah lol
Of course this is real life and not a fictional love story, and do I love a love story or what

So yes probably not a subject best brought up on a physical health forum

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Ok will stop here now before I bore the crap out of u folk

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**angelfaces** · October 9th, 2007, 05:45 PM

I do however disagree on the love having nothing to do with health thing, being in love would revitalise and satisfy your mind body and soul more than sex or any other workout would, then again of course thats if you've ever experienced it or even think you have(the power of the mind

!), but then this is reality so very unlikely many people have, especially in todays society

**mooshue** · October 9th, 2007, 05:49 PM

angelfaces, the 2 instances, fictional or not, forest and jenny, jack and rose.
Both of those couples, someone died and they were never able to experience anything other than the new love they had for each other. They didnt get the bad stuff, the hate, or the ability to even break up. They actually have no idea if they would have made it together or if their love was just lust. In forest case, being that he was a bit slow and probably would never have gotten a real girlfriend without money, only loved jenny because she was one of the few who was truly his friend and nice to him unconditionally, therefore his one and only true love as he was capable of knowing it.
These are just my views, as twisted as they may be

PS, love the fact that someone besides myself views marriage as a religious contract with the state

**pliny_2001** · October 9th, 2007, 05:58 PM

Why don't we talk about love?

Either you've never been in love, and therefore have nothing to add.
Or you're in love, and would rather be with them then prattling on about it to others.
Or you were in love - but no longer are - and are unable to talk about it without a complete breakdown of the generally-enjoyable and well-liked "pliny" character that you've carefully constructed over the internet while . . . ummmm. . . yeah . . . I really got nothing here.

Just sex, though - we can talk about that all day.

PS - Rose married someone else after Jack died on the Titanic. So she was, technically, able to want someone else.
PPS - mooshue and I seem to agree on everything, though in this case I still hold out hope for the 'Big Love' (never married, no kids - so I haven't soured yet).

**angelfaces** · October 9th, 2007, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mooshue

angelfaces, the 2 instances, fictional or not, forest and jenny, jack and rose.
Both of those couples, someone died and they were never able to experience anything other than the new love they had for each other. They didnt get the bad stuff, the hate, or the ability to even break up. They actually have no idea if they would have made it together or if their love was just lust. In forest case, being that he was a bit slow and probably would never have gotten a real girlfriend without money, only loved jenny because she was one of the few who was truly his friend and nice to him unconditionally, therefore his one and only true love as he was capable of knowing it.
These are just my views, as twisted as they may be

PS, love the fact that someone besides myself views marriage as a religious contract with the state

True both couples had a tragic ending,then again whats a love story without one

Forrest was slow yes but he knew what love was and I believe his character was in love with Jenny for who she was rather than of convienience.
and a girl who likes shopping and to b wined and dined can b purchased anytime, theres only too many of them around, then of course those arrangements are nothing to do with real love

Glad someone else has figured out the contract thing too

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**angelfaces** · October 9th, 2007, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pliny_2001

Why don't we talk about love?

Either you've never been in love, and therefore have nothing to add.
Or you're in love, and would rather be with them then prattling on about it to others.
Or you were in love - but no longer are - and are unable to talk about it without a complete breakdown of the generally-enjoyable and well-liked "pliny" character that you've carefully constructed over the internet while . . . ummmm. . . yeah . . . I really got nothing here.

Just sex, though - we can talk about that all day.

PS - Rose married someone else after Jack died on the Titanic. So she was, technically, able to want someone else.
PPS - mooshue and I seem to agree on everything, though in this case I still hold out hope for the 'Big Love' (never married, no kids - so I haven't soured yet).

oh ha ha, people have had sex too and have excercised etc but still got plenty to say on the subject, feelings especially don't have an end

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And if the prattling on bit were said then most people would b excercising instead of prattling on bout it

Breakdown of character? Good luck on constructing your every sentence to not breakdown the 'character', I myself say whatever I want and if somebody doesn't 'approve' then they can kiss my fat ass, only it'd take em a while cos its larger than 50 roseannes combined

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True Rose remarried though I reckon it was out of not wanting to b alone her husband was obviously second choice, had Jack been alive she would've ran to him in a heartbeat.
and good to see you still believe in love, I gotta say tho, marriage and kids have nothin to do with it so even if u did have them it wouldnt necessarily mean ur in love

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**tooncesthecat** · October 12th, 2007, 05:14 PM

Love trumps sex, but sex is more interesting to discuss on these boards. Love is like a great work of art in a museum - it's very complex and difficult to describe to others. It must be experienced to be truly appreciated. And the longer you experience it, the more you discover about it. Sex is like an advertisement, it's meant to catch your attention, but it's quite superficial. Nice to look at, but not much to discuss. Sex is great, but sex with love is really hot! However, to answer the original question, love is probably too deep to discuss as it would involve typing to the extent that might injure one's fingers

**angelfaces** · October 12th, 2007, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tooncesthecat

Love trumps sex, but sex is more interesting to discuss on these boards. Love is like a great work of art in a museum - it's very complex and difficult to describe to others. It must be experienced to be truly appreciated. And the longer you experience it, the more you discover about it. Sex is like an advertisement, it's meant to catch your attention, but it's quite superficial. Nice to look at, but not much to discuss. Sex is great, but sex with love is really hot! However, to answer the original question, love is probably too deep to discuss as it would involve typing to the extent that might injure one's fingers

True lol can't argue with that one

sm jus watch 'Dangerous Liasons(for the millionth time!)' on ITV3 and reminds me of the whole marriage contract and love thing, love was especially difficult to express in those times, 'Jude' the movie is another good example

in this one John Malkovich's character keeps going round treating their feelings like nothin then he falls for one himself, to the extent he doesn't wanna live anymore without her..aaaaaahh!

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Anyway enough of my yapping back to the movie!

Gastankerdriver · November 8th, 2007, 08:00 AM

Sex is easy. Love is work. Love is rolling up your sleeves and putting your work boots on. It's cleaning up the dog vomit in the kitchen. It's listening to your girlfriend rant about her co-workers, or giving a couple bucks to the homeless guy in the RITE-AID parking lot. Love is work. Sex is easy.

**TXT** · November 9th, 2007, 08:07 AM

If I had the gift of being able to speak in other languages without learning them and could speak in every language there is in all of heaven and earth, but didn’t love others, I would only be making noise. If I had the gift of prophecy and knew all about what is going to happen in the future, knew everything about everything, but didn’t love others, what good would it do? Even if I had the gift of faith so that I could speak to a mountain and make it move, I would still be worth nothing at all without love. If I gave everything I have to poor people, and if I were burned alive for preaching the Gospel but didn’t love others, it would be of no value whatever.
Love is very patient and kind, never jealous or envious, never boastful or proud, never haughty or selfish or rude. Love does not demand its own way. It is not irritable or touchy. It does not hold grudges and will hardly even notice when others do wrong. It is never glad about injustice, but rejoices whenever truth wins out. If you love someone, you will be loyal to him (or her), and always stand your ground in defending him (or her).
All the special gifts and powers of God will someday come to an end, but love goes on forever. Someday prophecy and speaking in unknown languages and special knowledge- these gifts will disappear. Now we know so little, even with our special gifts, and preaching of those most gifted is still so poor. But when we have been made perfect and complete, then the need for these inadequate special gifts will come to an end, and they will disappear.
It’s like this: when I was a child I spoke and thought and reasoned as a child does. But when I became a man (or woman) my thoughts grew far beyond those of my childhood, and now I have put away the childish things. In the same way, we can see and understand only a little about God now, as if we were peering at his reflection in a poor mirror, but someday we are going to see him in his completeness, face to face. Now all that I know is hazy and blurred, but then I will see everything clearly, just as clearly as God sees into my heart right now.
There are three things that remain- faith, hope and love- and the greatest of these is love. (1 Corinthians 13)