Please help!

[danny2007]

Ok, i hope you guys can help this kind of lifestyle is really depressing. Ok so, My dad was around 6ft in height and very thin (lanky) and i seem to have turned out like him in looks and everything! Which i hate because im so skinny! Iv tried a few things but it dosnt help i get stressed and give up. I bought some "Maximuscle Progain" mixing powder but it isnt doing anything! I have a home gym i got last crimbo but havent got a clue where to start. The point is, im about 5-9 to 6ft tall, i have long arms and legs as you can guess by that height, but theres no weight there, i keep finding help on how to loose the weight, well i want to put it on haha! and i know. eating right is the answer, but is there any workout that can boost the process ? iv been like this for years! i even wear long sleeved coats in the summer because i dont want people to see my arms the stumoch and chest area is toned and looks ok, but my arms are like sticks, when i get hot my veins pop out, and when i was in school i got accused of doing drugs because of it i used to do as many pushups as possible b4 bed and drink my progain but i gave up because nothing was happening, i also smoke which i know is very bad and im trying to quit i started by mixing with the wrong people when i was younger, but back to the point, i really nee your advice guys, im sick of being tall and lanky, i wanna be tall and lets say average, go check out justin timberlake, hes not huge but hes slim and has a good build, thats what im aiming for, insteado f being this stickman if you will. Im sorry this is so long but iv had enough now i woke up everyday feeling like a bag of sh*t what can i do ? thanks to anyone who helps, i really need it, i hope if yo udo help and it works then god, ill friggen bow to you all haha my life sucks at the min and i really need all the help with this as i can get its so god damn depressing P.S. Im 17 years of age if you need to know my age thanks guys

[danny2007]

Anyone?

[ppsuprise]

im sure we would need more info on your current diet and workout routines and then base something off of that. also what is you exact height cause im 5'9 and im not lanky but at 6' i prolly would be assuming i wighed the same as i do now which is bout 185-190 . if your looking to gain wieght though you need the proper training, bulking routine which there are tons on here to search for, then you would need the proper diet to help you get a clean bulk which is again searchable on this site depending on your needs im sure.

[Adonis]

Originally Posted by danny2007

Anyone?

generally you ahve to give people longer than 20 minutes to respond. With that being said, it may be wise to give people 2-5 hours if you are positng at 6:00am.

[pliny_2001]

First of all: actual height, weight, gender, etc.

Second of all: stop smoking now. It's kind of pointless to be concerned about diet, exercise and physique and then turn around and smoke. Actually, it's competely pointless.

Third: As long as teenagers haven't changed much in the last decade, they probably have a ton of body issues. Don't stress it, just think about the changes that you'll have to make to build some size as a positive for both your mental and physical health. So don't be depressed about it - just realize that you'll need to make some changes in your diet, and some changes to your free time. And if you want to build a significant amount of muscle, we are talking about some pretty significant changes. But you need to remember - they'll take many, many months, so you'll have to keep working, even when you don't see rapid changes.



Answer the questions above, and decide if you really want to make a change - no smoking, a ton more food, and exercising regularly and often. If you're up to it, there's a wealth of info out there, and a ton of experience here on the board. Probably most lifters out there have been in a similar predicament, wanting to get bigger - otherwise, why else would we be lifting - so it's very do-able.

[Presa_Canario]

To paraphrase the above responses, patience is a virtue. So is proper punctuation, capitalization and paragraph formatting. Please try to make things easier to read.

In this post, I gave an outline of a typical day's meal plan for myself. I am currently 5'11'' and 200 pounds bone dry. You could follow something similar for yourself, but you'll need more food if you're naturally skinny.

Say, make it six eggs instead of four at breakfast, lots more carbs, and increase the servings a tad bit in general, you get the idea.

Be prepared to do lots of reading in this thread, but you'll be able to select a good beginner's routine.

Also to paraphrase the above posts, don't expect results this month. My only other advice is to take advantage of the fact that you're seventeen. You'll be able to eat like a horse with a tapeworm, and make great advances if you stick to it.

Originally Posted by danny2007

... i used to do as many pushups as possible b4 bed and drink my progain but i gave up because nothing was happening...

How long did you keep that up for, and has that been your only experience with working out? And before you have to hear it from everybody else, if you're serious, you'll need to work EVERYTHING. If you read all these posts and then just do dumbbell curls and tricep kickbacks, you'll never get anywhere.

Go here and browse, and look at squats, rows, and deadlifts and be prepared to do lots of them.

[AdrenelineRush]

If I were you I would definately try and bulk up.
Eat as much as you can and workout regularly as well, so you just don't add flubber to your bodyframe.
You can try taking protein again, or try buying some creatine... heres one of the main brands of creatine:: www. bsnonline.net/splash/index.php
but theres tons of other brands to choose from if you feel like it.
As for the smoking, it doesnt really matter. You've got to understand that most people on this forum are "fitness buffs" and really dislike smoking.
Even smoking isn't beneficial to your health, it has nothing to do with your body stature, so you can relax.

Goodluck!

[pliny_2001]

OK - I rarely just jump in to correct a point, but I will here:

Smoking matters.

There is a strong correlation b/w the number of cigarettes smoked at home during pre-adolescent and failure to attain a 'normal' height. There isn't any data (that I'm aware of - google may know more) to suggest that smoking as an adolescent, though, will stunt your growth in height. It WILL, however, tremendously decrease weight gain. Also tremendous correlation b/w smoking and reduced lung capacity. FYI: reduced lung capacity = reduced ability to exercise.

If people want to smoke, they can go ahead - I can't say that I particularly care (as long as they don't smoke w/in range of me). But damage from smoking has massive effects on athletic performance, and bodybuilding's a pretty athletic endeavor. If you want to smoke and be/look like an athlete, I'd suggest that your priorities aren't in the right order.

[Presa_Canario]

Originally Posted by AdrenelineRush

If I were you I would definately try and bulk up.
Eat as much as you can and workout regularly as well, so you just don't add flubber to your bodyframe.
You can try taking protein again, or try buying some creatine... heres one of the main brands of creatine:: www. bsnonline.net/splash/index.php
but theres tons of other brands to choose from if you feel like it.
As for the smoking, it doesnt really matter. You've got to understand that most people on this forum are "fitness buffs" and really dislike smoking.
Even smoking isn't beneficial to your health, it has nothing to do with your body stature, so you can relax.

Goodluck!

I'm going to jump in, like pliny, and hope the OP actually returns to this thread at some point.

First off, this is NOT the time to think about supplements. Eat a LOT, and pick up heavy shit. Look into post-workout drinks as your only supplement at this point. Do some reading on BCAAs too. If someone tells you ANY supplement other than steroids had some "crazy good" results or any such BS, ignore them, and eat a steak.

I smoke.

Cigarettes are bad.

Unless you've killed a loved one, or listen to emo, cigarette smoking IS the worst decision you've ever made. I made it too. I've quit several times and keep coming back.

Smoking is for many people a cultural thing that carries as many stigmas as religion, and I'm not kidding. To nonsmokers, I say power to you, and never start. But feel free to show a little respect for the fact that we all have our vices and demons, and not all of them take visible manifestations and hang out of our faces for all the world to see.

I used to be all-around unhealthy, and now consider myself unhealthy only for the fact that I smoke. I have a diet and knowledge about my diet that most Americans will never have. I have not eaten fast food, anything deep fried, anything in TV dinner format in over a year, and never will again. I can move weights that the average male my size cannot, nor can the average male bigger than me for that matter. I drink once a month or less. I grew up and quit smoking weed over three years ago (and I'm only 20), and don't miss a damn thing about it.

But I still willingly smoke cigarettes. I know what goes on when that smoke hits my lungs.

I even take the extra and futile step of smoking organic tobacco. How's that for effed the eff up?

[Insex]

Welcome to EF danny2007. I hope you enjoy your stay, and I hope you find all of our resources useful to your needs.

First things first, you gave us your age and height, but you never told us your weight. You already described yourself as being skinny, and that you're very concerned with that. But we need to know if you're a 155-pound skinny guy or a 105-pound skinny guy. I'm also assuming that you're male.

With that out of the way, I was really confused with this statement you made about yourself:

Originally Posted by danny2007

The point is, im about 5-9 to 6ft tall, i have long arms and legs as you can guess by that height, but theres no weight there, i keep finding help on how to loose the weight, well i want to put it on haha!

Okay, you're either 5'9" or 6'0". You can't be both. No one on this planet fluctuates from a certain height on one day, then gains or loses 3 inches on other days. So are you 5'9" or are you 6'0"? There's a big difference between the two. A 5'9" guy is of average height, but a 6'0" guys is considered to be tall. If you have a family doctor, go to him/her for a physical examination and ask him/her to measure your height without shoes. If you don't have a doctor, go to the hardware store and buy a measuring tape (not a 12-inch ruler, a measuring tape that's at least 6 feet long). Use the measuring tape with a wall in your home. Make sure the measuring tape is flat against the wall, stretched to its limit, and the starting end is touching the ground. With a pencil, mark the spots that are 5'8", 5'9", 5'10", 5'11", 6'0", and 6'1". Finally, take off your shoes, and stand up against the wall. Have someone else (not yourself) take something that is flat (like a ruler, or the edge of a book) and measure the very top of your head to the marks on the wall. Whatever mark it touches, that's your height. After you do that, come back to this forum and tell us what your correct height is.

Originally Posted by danny2007

and i know. eating right is the answer, but is there any workout that can boost the process ? ... i used to do as many pushups as possible b4 bed and drink my progain but i gave up because nothing was happening,

I think this is your main problem. You can't expect to see any significant results without a structured regimen. You need to spend some time thinking about what you want to accomplish, and how you'll effectively accomplish those goals. Doing a few pushups before going to bed is going to do nothing. You're just doing random things. Random things will not make the cut. You need to schedule your day to where you devote 60 to 90 minutes each day for going to the gym and working out hard for those 60 to 90 minutes. Spending one or two minutes doing pushups then calling it a day isn't going to do a thing for you, other than help maintain your current physique. You need a structured regimen where you have days where you exercise your chest & back, then days where you exercise legs & abs, or maybe just a few days a week where you exercise the entire body all at once with multiple different exercises.

Whatever you choose to do, you need a detailed and structured regimen of how you're going to do it. Doing random exercises here and there isn't going to cut it. I suggest you get started with a look at our Member's Workout Routines section, located here:

Member's Workout Routines

Originally Posted by danny2007

i also smoke which i know is very bad and im trying to quit i started by mixing with the wrong people when i was younger,

You already know smoking is bad for you, and it defintely will hinder your body's ability to effectly put on muscle tissue. Not only that, it will compromise your cardiovascular and circulatory systems, which are responsible for transporting blood and nutrients to all of your organs, including your muscles. Smoking in the long-run will lead to decreased heart health, decreased lung health, the inability to achieve and maintain an erection, and so on...

I highly suggest that you visit this thread, and participate in it on a daily basis:

This Thread Kicks Butt!

Originally Posted by danny2007

im sick of being tall and lanky, i wanna be tall and lets say average, go check out justin timberlake, hes not huge but hes slim and has a good build, thats what im aiming for, insteado f being this stickman if you will.

I don't know about you, but I consider Justin Timberlake to be skinny. So for you wanting to fill-out to be like JT, you must be really skinny right now.

Originally Posted by danny2007

Im sorry this is so long but iv had enough now i woke up everyday feeling like a bag of sh*t what can i do ?

You should not be calling yourself a "bag of sh*t right" now, you're far from it. The day you wake up, and have 400 pounds of fat hanging from your belly, then you can start calling yourself a "bag of sh*t."

I hope this helps get you started with your endeavor. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask whatever. We're here to help.

[Bravo]

"The day you wake up, and have 400 pounds of fat hanging from your belly, then you
can start calling yourself a "bag of sh*t."

Hey! I resemble that remark.

Welcome Danny, I hope you enjoy the site. There is a lot of good information
here on both diet and exercise, please take your time and browse through the
stickies at the top of the forums...tons of good info there.

Next, don't get discouraged. You're 17, right now your body is busy growing up
and when it reaches its height it will start concentrating on filling out. That said,
there is a lot you can do to make sure it fills out in a healthy way that you can be
proud of. However; there are no quick fixes, no magic potion...if you want it, it's
going to take hard work, dedication and time. If I have to struggle to lose my
belly, it is only right that you have to struggle a little too.

Did anyone say anything to about stopping any bad habits yet? No need to restate
the obvious is there?

Last, and perhaps most important. Physical health starts with good mental
attitude. "What the mind can conceive, the body can achieve!" Start thinking
better about yourself, who you are, what you are and where you're going. If
you're not comfortable with who you are in your mind, perhaps it is time to seek
some change there too. Don't ever be negative about yourself, see yourself in a
postive manner and always be positive in both your thoughts and speech.

I think you'll do well if you'll listen to the advice from the experts around here.
Provide them with good, honest information and they'll provide you with some
excellent advice you couldn't buy anywhere else. Don't worry about getting
discouraged, we all do from time to time. This place is always full of
encouragement and support. Good Luck!

Almost forgot to mention goals, don't forget to set some good, solid goals for yourself.
Wanting to look like Timberlake may be the root of your whole problem.

[danny2007]

Thanks guys, i feel better already Mentally not build of course, if things like this happened over night then well, smiles all around .

What i ment by 5'9 or 6ft was, im about 5'9 to 6ft, i mean i dont know 100% how tall i am that was a rough statement. Ill have to get measuring soon haha.

Yes i surpose yo ucould say Justin Timberlake is rather average and slim but im not one of the guys that wants arms like arnold schwarzenegger in his early days. Im just out to gaining a pretty average yet toned build and want a little more bulk on my body frame.

Ok so yes for excercise i havent done much, I have a chinup bar in my room, i do pushups and sit ups before bed and leave days in-between for recovery which is what im surpose to do right? And just recently i have started dancing, not the slow ballroom stuff, i mean like Justin timberlake if any of you have seen him? so as you can guess its fast and takes alot of energy to move like that. And i seem to hold it together without falling to the floor and dying because i smoke haha so maybe smoking for 7 years hasnt killed me so much, but yes at one point when i was back in school i was the fastest runner in my year, untill i started smoking so changes was made!

All im looking for is a small routine that will put on a little bulk but not fat on my bodyframe, ill show u a picture of justin timberlake and then ill try and explain what i look like from that: darkhorizons.com/news04/alpha4.jpg ok so thats a picture of what i want, as you can see its not tree trunk build haha its average, ok well i am currently like that, Its just my arms that need a little bulk, right from the top all the way to my wrist, i mean my forearms arnt like his, my veins show too much when i get hot, i need a little bulk there and on the sides of my chest because im not way skinny but u can see the the indents faintly were my ribcage is and i wanna cover them like on that pic if ya understand what i mean

My girlfriend that i have been with for 3 years moans at me because she says im gorgeous and perfect and my body is great, so is it just me feeling insecure llol ? well it dosnt matter its for me right ? and i feel i need some bulk even though shes normally right about everything women

So, how can i add some bulk but not HUGE amounts so i turn out fat or built like arny ?

I know im kinda crap at writing, and understanding you all but i dont know all the terms for working out and stuff so please forgive me

~ Danny

P.S. sorry about the link but i havent yet got 15 posts

[pliny_2001]

Originally Posted by danny2007

So, how can i add some bulk but not HUGE amounts so i turn out fat or built like arny ?

Here's just something that always makes me laugh (I'm not directing this to you, danny - it's just an observation for everyone) - How often do you hear people talking about working out, and saying 'I don't want to get too big'? They talk to their trainers about it as if it's a legitimate concern, that they may just do a few curls and maybe a bench or two and suddenly be deformed by the musculature they've just put on?

So danny (and everybody else) - YOU CANNOT PUT ON SIZE QUICKLY. You will know well in advance if you're getting as big as you'd like. People will start lifting serioiusly, and may see a rapid weight gain, but it's almost all water and glycogen - you stop lifting, and it all goes away. Adolescents can put on mass faster than adults (yaw'll have so much freakin' test in your system at that age), but you're still not going to pop out 22" arms sometime next week.


Diet
Water
Sleep
Exercise

Those four are all you need to do, and they're listed in order of importance. Read up, there's a ton of info about all 4.

Good luck.

[danny2007]

Haha sorry must have sounded rather stupid saying big but not too big eh, especially on a board were people have bodies like the classic arnold sorry guys!

Anyway your all helping me out so much, this is the stuff you normally have to pay for where i live your all great guys and girls if you one of the posters.

Ill keep checking back and reading all the replies ig et and follow through with them all, like i said iv started dancing now, that works the leg mucsle's out naturally right ? id of through so but could be wrong.

Anyway thanks to all the people who took the time to reply this far your just awesome, if only the world was full of people like this instead of the kind that get you into bad habbits

[Insex]

Ok, I can understand better what you're trying to say. You want a sleek & sexy build, but not a bodybuilder's bodytype.

Originally Posted by danny2007

Yes i surpose yo ucould say Justin Timberlake is rather average and slim but im not one of the guys that wants arms like arnold schwarzenegger in his early days. Im just out to gaining a pretty average yet toned build and want a little more bulk on my body frame.

Ok so yes for excercise i havent done much, I have a chinup bar in my room, i do pushups and sit ups before bed and leave days in-between for recovery which is what im surpose to do right? And just recently i have started dancing, not the slow ballroom stuff, i mean like Justin timberlake if any of you have seen him? so as you can guess its fast and takes alot of energy to move like that. And i seem to hold it together without falling to the floor and dying because i smoke haha so maybe smoking for 7 years hasnt killed me so much, but yes at one point when i was back in school i was the fastest runner in my year, untill i started smoking so changes was made!

All im looking for is a small routine that will put on a little bulk but not fat on my bodyframe, ill show u a picture of justin timberlake and then ill try and explain what i look like from that: darkhorizons.com/news04/alpha4.jpg ok so thats a picture of what i want, as you can see its not tree trunk build haha its average, ok well i am currently like that, Its just my arms that need a little bulk, right from the top all the way to my wrist, i mean my forearms arnt like his, my veins show too much when i get hot, i need a little bulk there and on the sides of my chest because im not way skinny but u can see the the indents faintly were my ribcage is and i wanna cover them like on that pic if ya understand what i mean

I think I understand what you're saying. You want a bigger chest and bigger arms to match those of Justin Timberlake's. But I'm going to go ahead and say something that you probably won't like: building muscle is not as simple as it looks. Sure you can eat a lot Calories, mostly in the form of proteins, and workout a lot. You'll definitely gain muscle size this way. But each individual person on this planet has a different genetic makeup. Meaning, we each look different from the other because each of us has unique genes which are different from everyone else's. Our genes control everything, from how tall we are to what shape and size our muscles take. For example: compare 8-time Mr. Olympia Ronnie Coleman to legendary Strongman Bill Kazmaier. If you are unfamiliar with who I'm talking about, do a Google search on both. Both were roughly 300 pounds during their primes, Kaz weighing a little bit more and being about 3 or 4 inches taller in height. But both men had absolutely huge physiques and had superhuman strength. Besides the obvious difference in skin color, each of these men had a different genetic makeup from the other. The shape, size, and form that Ronnie's muscles took were much different than those of Kaz's, even though each man almost had the same size and body measurements. It would have been comical to see Kaz try to achieve the same exact shape and size in muscular structure as Ronnie, and vice versa. Because it's impossible. You can control how much bigger you get, but you can't control the shape your muscles will be. That's controlled by your genes.

With that said, the point I'm trying to make is don't expect to achieve the same muscular structure as another individual when you begin training. No matter how hard you train, your chest and arms will never look exactly like those of Justin Timberlake's. But, you can make your muscles look better than his.

Originally Posted by danny2007

My girlfriend that i have been with for 3 years moans at me because she says im gorgeous and perfect and my body is great, so is it just me feeling insecure llol ? well it dosnt matter its for me right ? and i feel i need some bulk even though shes normally right about everything women

Your girlfriend is right. If she says you look good enough as you are right now, then you should take her word for it. However, it's your body and you should do what you want with it. If your sole purpose for achieving more muscle size is for your own satisfaction, then go for it. But if you're doing this just to over impress your girlfriend, then don't do it and take her word for it.

Since you mostly want to gain size in your chest and arms, then train your chest and arms with great intensity. But you'll need to do more than just a few pushups with your own bodyweight before going to bed. First, train in the morning or afternoon instead, while your body is ready to workout and is not waiting to go to sleep. Second, you'll need to physically force your muscles to grow by overloading them with more weight than their used to. The reason why your muscles don't grow after all those pushups you do is because they are used to working out with that weight. Instead, throw some extra weights in a backpack, throw it on your back, and really try to challenge yourself. Start with setting a goal right now: Be able to do the same amount of pushups as you can right now with your own bodyweight, but with an extra 25 pounds. Also, you say you have a Pullup Bar. That's great! Do Pullups with extra weight in that backpack. Do crunches with extra weight being your head. Do Curls, Kickbacks, Skull Crushers, Lateral, Front, and Behind Shoulder Raises with weights that are heavy; aim for as many reps and sets you can do.

However, I highly recommend that you do more than just train those two bodyparts. It's better to train the entire body as a whole, to keep yourself from developing a disproportionate physique. This includes also training your shoulders, back, legs (and calves), and abdominals.

Originally Posted by danny2007

So, how can i add some bulk but not HUGE amounts so i turn out fat or built like arny ?

To sum it up in a nutshell: Consume enough Calories and nutrients so that you're supplying your body with the energy and nutrients it needs to regulate bodily functions and perform high-intensity exercises. Keep in mind that it's more than a game with numbers. You need a lot of Calories, but not just any source of food will do. You need specific nutrients from specific sources of food.

Exercise with great intensity on a consistent basis so that you force your body to adapt these new outside stressors. Your body's natural self defense against these new outside stressors (intense exercise) is to grow bigger and stronger. If you do not train with high intensity and power, you will not develop a physique that looks intense and powerful.

Finally, make sure there is not a huge excess in Calories consumed. Otherwise, you'll gain weight, but in the form of stored body fat.

[gYmgIrL]

bumpy

[danny2007]

Thanks insex and nicee reply "gYmGirl" haha, Sorry i have not replied in a long time. split up with my girlfriend so iv been getting my head around that shit haha. anyway iv read all the posts this far and im shocked at how much you guys know! bloody crazy stuff and im going to listen and take it all in and crack on with it. Very nicely put btw Insex and thanks to everyone whos posted, i love you all haha